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APOLOGY...TESSERA

SickPyth7

SickPyth7

Snakes
As interesting of a season as I have had, I have to apologize to my customers and the members of this forum. In 2009 I purchased my male Tessera from Graham not knowing what he maybe het for. In 2011 I bred my Tessera to a Caramel that I had aquired several months before. There were only two good eggs that made it to hatching. Unfortunetly both babies had died in there eggs. They were both Butters. (See Picture Below)
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Little did I know I also had a clutch from Amber Stripe or Tessera to a Ultramel het Stripe. The Tessera was the winning male. I ended up producing an Ultramel Tessera Stripe! So I had contacted Graham and check to see if he remembered breeding Tessera to a Butter Stripe, he said yes! So I concluded that mine had to be Tessera het Butter Stripe.

2012 rolls on and I have awsome plans for my newly discovered Tessera het Butter Stripe. My 1st clutch...Tessera x High White Ultramel....produced an Ultramel Tessera with high white potential and some regular Tesseras. My 3rd clutch...Tessera x Caramel Stripe het Amel/Hypo....YEAH this one has to be awsome right! Hatching day comes and I'm losing my mind... OMG I produced Caramel Striped Tesseras.....After confirming pictures with Don Soderberg he was sure I had a Caramel Stripe Tessera. Members of this forum said NO.....the members were right! After a few meals and a shed, they look just like regular Striped Tesseras. But how could that be? I produced Butters the year before...but not a single Caramel in this clutch and the odds were 50% in my favor. This has to be a proven example of sperm being held from a previous breeding. So for this I apologize to my customers who purchased Tesseras that were possible het Butter Stripe and to the members who I have mis-led with my pictures and info. For this confusion I'M SORRY. The one thing I can guarantee is that Amel and Stripe is definitely involved.

BUT WAIT......whats this.........Tonight 06-20-12 12:18am Tessera x Snow Stripe eggs hatching. SIX eggs...a Stripe, a Normal, a Tessera, a AMEL STRIPE TESSERA, one egg not hatched yet, and.....a Snow Stripe???? Looks like there is something else, Anerythristic!
 
Sorry to hear that wasn't a caramel striped tessera. Until they've had at least one shed, those little buggers can be quite deceiving! But it sounds like you've got some very sweet hatchlings pipping and that's much more than what I can say! I can't even afford a tessera and my eggs are going to take quite awhile to hatch incubating in the mid to upper 70's to avoid cooking them.
 
So you think your Tesserea is het Striped Snow now?

Here is the list of Tessera breedings that I was came up with that were sold without known hets.

Striped Butter
Lavender
Bloodred
Silverqueen Ghost
Blue Motley

Striped Snow isn't on the list. I guess the list isn't complete. Who knows if it is accurate.
 
Thank you Justin for letting us know about this, it is disappointing to find out they probably are not going to have caramel involved...but it's better to know now and not when eggs are hatching next year. I am glad you told us now so we can adjust our projects accordingly :) Thanks and sorry cause I now this alters your projects as well.

Keep us up to date on the anery info please.
 
I do have to say Thank you for informing us as well. It is a little disappointing since I was hoping for butter tess's however this is something that I wouldn't have held against you if I didn't get it since I knew I was getting a possible het snake anyway.
 
exar15xe said:
Thank you Justin for letting us know about this, it is disappointing to find out they probably are not going to have caramel involved...but it's better to know now and not when eggs are hatching next year. I am glad you told us now so we can adjust our projects accordingly :) Thanks and sorry cause I now this alters your projects as well.

Keep us up to date on the anery info please.
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Yes, Because of the Caramel not being there my projects have been shattered a bit but there is an upside. Anerythristic is there! Here is a Snow Stripe that came from Tessera x Snow Stripe. My Snow Stripe has never bred before this and the Tessera was the ONLY male breeding her. Its OFFICIAL my Tessera is 100% het Snow Stripe.
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ecreipeoj said:
So you think your Tesserea is het Striped Snow now?

Here is the list of Tessera breedings that I was came up with that were sold without known hets.

Striped Butter
Lavender
Bloodred
Silverqueen Ghost
Blue Motley

Striped Snow isn't on the list. I guess the list isn't complete. Who knows if it is accurate.
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Sold by who?
 
airenlow said:
Sold by who?
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The people who sold them the first year they were available, like the one this thread is about.

The list of possible breedings is an unofficial list of the most likely probabilities base upon breeding results and combined emails.
 
ecreipeoj said:
So you think your Tesserea is het Striped Snow now?

Here is the list of Tessera breedings that I was came up with that were sold without known hets.

Striped Butter
Lavender
Bloodred
Silverqueen Ghost
Blue Motley

Striped Snow isn't on the list. I guess the list isn't complete. Who knows if it is accurate.
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So the likelihood that the striped butter was unknowingly het anery, an extremely common gene, is...what?

Congrats Justin on proving out another het in your tessera! That makes for even more wonderful potentials pipping out of eggs for you! SWEET!!
 
Susan said:
So the likelihood that the striped butter was unknowingly het anery, an extremely common gene, is...what?

Congrats Justin on proving out another het in your tessera! That makes for even more wonderful potentials pipping out of eggs for you! SWEET!!
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True but remember CARAMEL has been thrown out. My Tessera is only het Snow Stripe!!!!

I have produced to date:
Tesseras
Stripe Tesseras
Amel Tesseras
Amel Striped Tessera
A funky Motley that could be a Tessera
I also may have produced a Amel Motley Tessera
Ultramel Tessera
and a regular Snow Stripe that proves the Anery gene. I did not produce a single Caramel even when Tessera was bred to a Caramel Stripe this year....no Caramels!

**The entire Butter thing to me means that the Caramel I purchased months before had to have been bred to something else and those eggs were from a different daddy.

ALSO.....My Caramel Motley 100% het Ghost Stripe produced two clutches this year. The first was bred from a male Amber Stripe het Anery in which those babies are hatching now. I have a few Anery Caramel Stripes, Anery Caramel Motleys, and a Caramel Ghost Motley. The 2nd clutch will be coming later but the Tessera bred her so I could have Anery Tesseras and Anery Stripe Tesseras!!! we shall see.....once babies come out I'll be sharing with everyone.
 
And do you know what the caramel you purchased in '11 was bred to in '10 or perhaps earlier in '11? And just because you bred your tessera to a caramel and didn't get any caramels in this clutch doesn't always mean he isn't het caramel. Murphy and Lady Luck have been known to play the "I'm not letting the het gene show itself yet" card often enough. Don't give up on caramel yet!
 
Susan said:
And do you know what the caramel you purchased in '11 was bred to in '10 or perhaps earlier in '11? And just because you bred your tessera to a caramel and didn't get any caramels in this clutch doesn't always mean he isn't het caramel. Murphy and Lady Luck have been known to play the "I'm not letting the het gene show itself yet" card often enough. Don't give up on caramel yet!
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Susan you could be right but in my years of experience that has never happened. I have another clutch hatching this week from Tessera x Caramel MotleyPinstripe het Hypo Amel or Ultra. If this clutch does not hatch Caramels we will know!

Oh....and thank you so much for still having faith in the potential of caramel :)
 
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