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So who has the "Silverleaf" Kisatchies?

DMong

DMong

colubrid connoisseur
That originated from authentic east Texas slowinskii's that K.J. Lodrigue acquired and produced hets from in 2007, and then back to het daughters in 2009?

I have seen a photo of one homozygous clutch of Silverleafs that K.J. produced, and I have a friend that has several possible hets from the same line. But where are the few visuals that were produced thus far? I know Graham Criglow kept some and sold out of visuals in 2012 by looking at his last years 2012 price list, and he doesn't even have them listed on his personal site as of now either. I think Graham may have gotten out of quite a few things he worked with earlier.

Anyway, just wondering where they are and how they are doing.

Would love to see some pics of any who happen to have them. ;)


cheers, ~Doug
 
I'd be interested to know and see more pics too - Doug posted a couple of pictures on the Reptile UK forum, and they looked very striking indeed!
 
DMong said:
I think Graham may have gotten out of quite a few things he worked with earlier.
cheers, ~Doug
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That's because Graham has gotten really into some other types of snakes, that were quite expensive, and since you can't have them all, and funds needed to be raised, he parted with some projects the rest of us would die for.
 
Nanci said:
That's because Graham has gotten really into some other types of snakes, that were quite expensive, and since you can't have them all, and funds needed to be raised, he parted with some projects the rest of us would die for.
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Yeah, another buddy of mine that's real good friends with Graham told me about some of his more recent endeavors. I guess I should have looked into the good ol' "ratsnake" section there. I could have sworn they were not there a while back,.... but I guess not. Pretty dumb how I overlooked that. :roflmao: :sidestep:


~Doug
 
Hey Guys--- It's Graham. Sorry, I haven't been on CS.com in a while. Just taking a break. A friend sent me a message about this thread.

We did downsize on a bunch of stuff to make room for expanding current projects but we DO still breed the Silverleaf Kistachie's.

2012 sold out and from the looks of it, all the 2013 animals may be spoken for. We'll have to see- you know how that goes- plus I really need to hold a couple back for myself.

This will be our second season producing them.

Attached are pics of a NEWBORN Kistachie vs. NEWBORN Silverleaf Kistachie. They get better and better with age.

Hope this helps clear up any confusion. Again, sorry I've been MIA so long- just sometimes you need a break from the forum drama... plus I'd honestly rather be working with my animals in the snake buildings.


Happy Herpin'
Graham
 

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Nanci said:
Drama? What drama??
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Graham must have seen a couple of Carpe's threads. :roflmao: :sidestep:


WHAT'S UP GRAHAM???,..hey, thanks for the update man.......

Just got off the phone with our buddy Gerard S. not just a couple minutes ago. Just like you guys, we chat all the time about great stuff. Today it was about some smokin' Apalachicola goini/meansi and some of the very bogus lines of albino Cal. king x floridana out there.....gosh, imagine THAT ever happening!! :eek: LOL!!

best of luck with your Silverleafs and other projects Graham. :)



cheers, ~Doug
 
DMong said:
Graham must have seen a couple of Carpe's threads. :roflmao: :sidestep:


WHAT'S UP GRAHAM???,..hey, thanks for the update man.......

Just got off the phone with our buddy Gerard S. not just a couple minutes ago. Just like you guys, we chat all the time about great stuff. Today it was about some smokin' Apalachicola goini/meansi and some of the very bogus lines of albino Cal. king x floridana out there.....gosh, imagine THAT ever happening!! :eek: LOL!!

best of luck with your Silverleafs and other projects Graham. :)



cheers, ~Doug
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LOL, Gerard is the man! I need one of his F1 male Meansi that he'll hopefully produce this season from the WC adults. He sent me a PURE f1 female last year... the best of the best when it comes to meansi.

Yeah, we're doing fine around here... just spending time with the family and enjoying the adult snakes being down in brumation. They come out tomorrow--- Hopefully this is going to be a good season. There's some really neat projects happening here.

Next time I'm in Florida, we need to pick Gerard up (buy him a babysitter) and all head down south for some serious herping!
 
StrangeCargo said:
LOL, Gerard is the man! I need one of his F1 male Meansi that he'll hopefully produce this season from the WC adults. He sent me a PURE f1 female last year... the best of the best when it comes to meansi.

Yeah, we're doing fine around here... just spending time with the family and enjoying the adult snakes being down in brumation. They come out tomorrow--- Hopefully this is going to be a good season. There's some really neat projects happening here.

Next time I'm in Florida, we need to pick Gerard up (buy him a babysitter) and all head down south for some serious herping!
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Yeah bro, those true locale meansi are indeed the bomb! Very cool you scored that female and can hopefully get a matched male soon.

I know!..LOL! Every single time I talk to him there is a baby screaming in my ear, or he is yelling at Anna to stop running with scissors in her mouth, or hanging upside-down from the chandelier, etc...HAHA!!

Sure, that would be cool to do one day with you guys! :cheers:


cheers, ~Doug
 
Mitchell Mulks said:
Is "silverleaf" simple Mendelian recessive? Also, is the stippling/pattern effect separable from the anerythristic morph?
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Hi Mitch,.....

I know the "Silverleaf" gene is a proven recessive trait, but don't know about the possible differences regarding the stippling being seperated from the anery gene as of yet.

Here is a link with some interesting info regarding them on K.J.'s site if you haven't already seen it. Apparently it is non-allelic with the typical anery (A) cornsnake gene, which is also interesting to know. It seem like it is phenotypically similar to the charcoal (anery B) corn gene in that he states they have no hints of any yellow pigment.

http://www.kjun.us/elaphe.htm


cheers, ~Doug
 
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