What are these please.

[Ashby Reptiles]

Hi.

I have a few amel corns but picked this female up and was sold as amel, is this right?

I was also sold this as a female anery, is this also correct?

 

[CornsAustria]

second looks more like a granite (anery bloodred) then anery
first one is an amel - amels are so different in more then one way ... so normales do too...

 

[BLKfly]

First one definitely looks like a butter
Second one looks more like a charcoal?

 

[Ashby Reptiles]

Thank you both, will research the two morphs mentioned and try and work them out.
Thanks again.

 

[BLKfly]

Do you have any ventral scale pictures btw? It would be a lot easier to help.

 

[Ashby Reptiles]

Both have clear scales.

 

[BLKfly]

Your second one is probably a granite like cornsaustria suggested. Do you plan on breeding them?

 

[Ashby Reptiles]

On FB someone said the second one looked granite.
I will at some point, not in no rush to. ��

 

[Dragonling]

First one definitely looks like a butter

:huh_01: I don't see a hint of caramel in this snake.

I am quite intrigued at the darkened borders though. This is the second time I've seen this occur in an amel. Where did you find her, and would you consider a loan in 2018? (e) Of course you would be UK...

 

[Ashby Reptiles]

I bought her from a reptile shop, she was sold as an amel.
She is just a lovely snakes, just wondering what to pair with her when the time comes. I think she would make lovely snows.

 

[Rich Z]

First one definitely looks like a butter
Second one looks more like a charcoal?

Sorry, but no. The first one is DEFINITELY not a butter corn.

 

[BLKfly]

I know this is not an adult but you can see the similarly. I have never seen just a regular amel look like that. What attributes do you look for to insure there is in fact a caramel morph present?

 

[Dragonling]

Young butters do have a slight orange tinge to the saddles, but this is clearly an adult amel. A butter at this size would be quite yellow by comparison.

 

[Dragonling]

I bought her from a reptile shop, she was sold as an amel.
She is just a lovely snakes, just wondering what to pair with her when the time comes. I think she would make lovely snows.

If you pair her to an amel of any variety I may be interested in a hatchling or two. I already plan to import one other snake if possible next year from the UK so why not two, right? If you ever decide to part with her, please keep me in mind.

 

[CornsAustria]

definitley no butter - maybe you watch the pic on the phone ? the colour change so much between phone and pc.... try a look on the pc, there is definitley no butter in this snake
Amel varies so much from red borders to orange borders, but an adult butter never has that orange - butter should be yellow
take a look on
http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/?m=amelanistic
there are so much differences !!

 

[MysticExotics]

Possibly a Creamcicle on the first one?

 

[nancyg]

What about an amel from parents with Buf? That muted background in Buf might look like that when you take out the black pigment.. Plus some of them seem to have that 'colored' border, which is probably normally mixed in with the black pigment,

The faded sides on that second one definitly say Diffused Gene, And I would guess Anery, but I have not seen many Charcoals, and don't know how to tell them apart.

Nice looking scale-kids.