SnakeKiller
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I currently have an adult male, 3 yrs old. He is in a 15 gal tank (24" long). Is this big enough or should I really get a 20 gal long tank (30" long)?
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What size tank?
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SnakeKiller
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LOL...Well i don't mean for my nickname to be obnoxious, but my first snake, a baby corn, regurged and died 2 days later. I'm still perplexed as to why he died. I only had him for a couple of weeks. I then found this great sight to help research more so the same unfortunate incident doesn't happen again. So, my family break my chops and call me snakekiller, hence the name.
I now had my new adult stripped hypo corn for about 2 month's with no problems. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and reading up a lot.
Thank you all for the advice. Looks like I have some shopping to do for a bigger home for my corn. I have a 30" fish stand that would fit a long 20 gal and a perfect spot for that size tank. So, I'm wanting a long 20 gal. I dont want to cramp him either, though. I have to see what I can do.
BTW, does anyone have a good site for milk snakes, I can't find any. I'm thinking of getting one. Do they like the same conditions as a corn? The're both considered Culprids?
Thanks, again.
Jcapicy
Veritas Aequitas
Guesses as to meaning behind name:
1. their snake is named Killer (not as common as one might expect)
2. their snake is a killer (and I thought the dingo ate my baby!)
3. the couldn't spell killersnake (highly unlikely!)
4. it sounded cool (not like ice cream, but the other kind)
5. and last but not least....it was the first thing that came to mind (oh crap i forgot to breath!)
1. their snake is named Killer (not as common as one might expect)
2. their snake is a killer (and I thought the dingo ate my baby!)
3. the couldn't spell killersnake (highly unlikely!)
4. it sounded cool (not like ice cream, but the other kind)
5. and last but not least....it was the first thing that came to mind (oh crap i forgot to breath!)
Jcapicy
Veritas Aequitas
yeah, they are both "collubrids" and have very similar husbandry. check out fuanaclassifieds.com and the internet for milk snake breeders.
Do you know what kind you want? I personally like the tangerine hondurans.
Best wishes with your current and future snakes.
Hopefully that nickname wears off!
Do you know what kind you want? I personally like the tangerine hondurans.
Best wishes with your current and future snakes.
Hopefully that nickname wears off!
Hey snake killer, you can get a 29 gallon if you want, it's the exact same length as a 20 Long but taller, i was thinking of replacing my 20 long with it, my corn likes to think he's a tree boa/python and sleeps in the vines i have so i think he'll like me giving him more vertical room to climb.
SnakeKiller
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Thanks for the quick reply and good advice.
I'm also a tropical fish keeper and wanting maybe one day to become a true snake keeper. I love these guys! I think I'm gonna need a bigger house!
I do happen to have a empty 29 gal from the fish. So that kinda works out perfect for now. Just need to get a screen top then. Thanks for bringing that up XCHRIS.
...and BTW, I'm thinking a Pueblan Milk.
I'm also a tropical fish keeper and wanting maybe one day to become a true snake keeper. I love these guys! I think I'm gonna need a bigger house!
I do happen to have a empty 29 gal from the fish. So that kinda works out perfect for now. Just need to get a screen top then. Thanks for bringing that up XCHRIS.
...and BTW, I'm thinking a Pueblan Milk.
my buddy has a pueblan apricot milk snake and we just got another one at my work... im sure they are cool when they get older but as hatchlings and even a couple months in they are kinda lame in my opinion, they are very flighty and will burrow all the time, also they are shy eaters, i have yet to see either milk snake feed, i have to just leave the pinkie on the bottom of the tank and actually leave the room or atleast the sight of the snake so that they will eat, this goes for both of the snakes.
i understand hatchlings instinctively will burrow and what not but they just seem to do this alot more umm violently then a corn or king snake and especially more then boas/pythons. Both of the milk snakes are quite big on biting as well, my buddies bit him over 20 times already but seems to have stopped that habit after about 2 weeks, thank god he never musked.
Not trying to set you off of your milk snake choice but i didnt want you to be disappointed if you got a milk and expected it to be out while it was little.
i understand hatchlings instinctively will burrow and what not but they just seem to do this alot more umm violently then a corn or king snake and especially more then boas/pythons. Both of the milk snakes are quite big on biting as well, my buddies bit him over 20 times already but seems to have stopped that habit after about 2 weeks, thank god he never musked.
Not trying to set you off of your milk snake choice but i didnt want you to be disappointed if you got a milk and expected it to be out while it was little.
tyflier
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Shannon at highsierrareptiles.com has an incredible selection of milksnakes. Hondos, Pueblans, Nelson's, gaigea, and a multitude of morphs that are currently available(and some that aren't even on the opne market yet...).
Check him out. His site is not updated, but if you send him an email, he will respond. I know most of his females will be laying very soon, if they haven't already...
I was out there about 3 weeks ago, and most of his mating pairs were already together and doing their thing...
Check him out. His site is not updated, but if you send him an email, he will respond. I know most of his females will be laying very soon, if they haven't already...
I was out there about 3 weeks ago, and most of his mating pairs were already together and doing their thing...
Those are some beautiful snakes
SnakeKiller
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Yeah, I heard the milk's are quite nervous when there young and love to hide and burrow.
That's what I want an apricot milk. "Red next to black, your ok Jack...Red next to yellow your a dead fellow". I guess it's not the best snake to handle like a corn but, I love the coloration. Do they settle down more as they get handled a lot or get older?
Thanks for all the help guys...
That's what I want an apricot milk. "Red next to black, your ok Jack...Red next to yellow your a dead fellow". I guess it's not the best snake to handle like a corn but, I love the coloration. Do they settle down more as they get handled a lot or get older?
Thanks for all the help guys...
Since i havent actually held an adult one before i cant give you a factual answer but from what i have seen on videos of milk snakes some seem to be calm... others... not so much
i just searched a couple youtube videos and heres one that has a milk snake that kinda shows how quick they can be
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CnAFZrjQCn8
if you skip to about a minute or so in and watch you can see how flighty they are in the tank from your hand and this guys is actually ok once picked up but most stay the same way in your hand as they are in the tank, id imagine with alot of handling they will calm down but i'll have to let you know if thats true with these guys after continuous handling of my buddies and the stores milk snake
Jrgh17
Are we there yet?
A lot of milks will calm down with regular, proper gentle handling. It can be a bit of a gamble though. One of the milks in the bio labs is the MEANEST snake I have EVER seen. He's probably about 7 ft long too, so he is NOT an easy boy to handle. He was a rescue though, so he could've not been handled enough.
By the way, there's a BIG difference between proper handling and "alot" of handling. Too much can actually stress a snake out, and cause even more problems than it solves. As a hatchling, I'd say once a week, sometimes twice, for about 15 minutes. As the snake gets older, the # per week and length can increase. The biggest thing is not to "reward" bad behavior. If the snake bites you, and as a result, it gets to go back to it's hide, it can encourage the snake to bite.
As a warning, it can be very hard to keep holding a snake that has just bit you.
By the way, there's a BIG difference between proper handling and "alot" of handling. Too much can actually stress a snake out, and cause even more problems than it solves. As a hatchling, I'd say once a week, sometimes twice, for about 15 minutes. As the snake gets older, the # per week and length can increase. The biggest thing is not to "reward" bad behavior. If the snake bites you, and as a result, it gets to go back to it's hide, it can encourage the snake to bite.
As a warning, it can be very hard to keep holding a snake that has just bit you.
v_various
secretly normal
Argh, I'd love one of his black milks but I live in Canada. I'm afraid it's too complicated to get it over here, and I don't want anything to go wrong -_-