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Stop the political B.S.

KJUN said:
Ricky/Michael:

I only said things along those lines about you specifically after you openly stated you COULD work, but choice NOT to work because you wanted to do something else. I wish I had that option.....lol. That in NO WAY was relevant, though, to anything here. I didn't deny ANYTHING except calling anyone an extreme socialist. Feel free to go back and read my post.
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For some persons receiving SSI/SS benefits, if those persons require costly monthly medical treatments, and they work, they might lose their SS benefits, or severely reduce their SS benefits. Sometimes it is not practical for them to work, for if they did, they would no longer receive SS coverage for their conditions. http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10095.html#part7

It is not possible to understand someone if you do not know them.
 
davesfiles said:
For some persons receiving SSI/SS benefits, if those persons require costly monthly medical treatments, and they work, they might lose their SS benefits, or severely reduce their SS benefits. Sometimes it is not practical for them to work, for if they did, they would no longer receive SS coverage for their conditions. http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10095.html#part7

It is not possible to understand someone if you do not know them.
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It's not that I disagree with you, but your right and wrong at the same time.

What you are missing, is that Michael mentioned in a previous thread, that he could work and has, but chose not to. KJUN was just pointing that out.

I remember the thread and the post, because I commented on it, but I am not going to go and dig it up. I have spoken with Michael, about his disability. I don't think he is doing anything wrong and I can understand what he is going through. He has a legitimate reason for doing what he is doing and I think it's a non-issue

I don't have a problem with Michael or Ricky. Yes, we share different political views. That doesn't mean they are bad people. Just misguided! :sidestep:

Wayne
 
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medusacoils said:
It's not that I disagree with you, but your right and wrong at the same time.

What you are missing, is that Michael mentioned in a previous thread, that he could work and has, but chose not to. KJUN was just pointing that out.

I remember the thread and the post, because I commented on it, but I am not going to go and dig it up. I have spoken with Michael, about his disability. I don't think he is doing anything wrong and I can understand what he is going through. He has a legitimate reason for doing what he is doing and I think it's a non-issue

I don't have a problem with Michael or Ricky. Yes, we share different political views. That doesn't mean they are bad people. Just misguided! :sidestep:

Wayne
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Just for the sake of conversation, say, the person on SSDI gets $1200 per month.
$14,400.- per year.
And he gets a job that pays $12.00 per hour, full time/40 hr. workweek.
That comes to $480 per week. $360.- after taxes FICA, SS...
$360 X 52 weeks a year = $18720.00
One half of $18720.- ( $9360.-) is going to be deducted from his $14,400.- SSDI check, which leaves him SSDI annual benefits amounting to $5040.-
So now his income from work and SSDI = $23,760.
That looks pretty rosy, doesn't it?

We seem to have overlooked the ongoing medical treatments this person is receiving, which amount to $ oh lets be extreemly conservative and say $2000.- per month.
Medicaid used to pick up 100% of the bill.
But now this person is working f/t, so he no longer can receive Medicaid. But his employer has a fabulous HMO plan which will cover 100%, but covers Nothing for pre-existing conditions. So any disabling condition the person has before they work there is not covered. It's a very standard insurance plan.

So now this person has $23,760.- in income from work and SSDI,
and $24,000.- going out for medical expenses.
I left out the hundred thousand in student loans because he went to school for 4 years to become a website development/programmer.

Now, just for fun, imagine the person has been assessed by the appropriate agency under contract for the state in which they live, and has Not been deemed incompetent. And they are an adult. So they have the right to make choices for themselves, rather than being a ward of the state, or with a permanent live in companion or synonymn. So they have a choice to work 2080 hours per year and take home NEGATIVE $240.00.
Or not work.
Imagine if this person was you.
What would be the wise choice for you?
 
mike17l said:
Is $12.00/hour the average pay for a computer/website developer/programmer? :shrugs:
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If we proceed on those assumptions, medical costs = $24,000/yr.

The amount received by SSDI = $14,400 + Medicaid.

The point at which, according to those values, SSDI stops being paid = $28,800.

So in order for a person who is living on SSDI to have an equal standard of living would need a take home pay of $38,400. According to the above values, deductions total %25 (Man, that's a lot.) So they would need an annual salary of $51,200 just to break even. Hourly wage? $24.60/hr assuming 52 weeks, 40 hours a week. That's good money, just to break even.

Based off the above money, of course.
 
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