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Lost my caliking to cancer -!!!Graphic!!!-

SnakeAround

Formerly Blutengel
This is a post to show people that cancer occurs in snakes, and more regularly lately (my reptile vet told me). It might be noticed even more often if more people would have an autopsy executed on it. This could also lead to a better knowledge of cancer in snakes. It might also save a snake with similar symptoms. And of course I just wanted you to know I lost one of my favorite snakes :sobstory:

After eating 2 adult mice without any sign of internal problems (regular poo), my cali king girl had not eaten for about 50 days when I felt a bump about an inch below her stomach. She was also loosing muscle tension and weight so I decided this was not a matter of seasonal refusal. I went to see the vet, which told me too try to lactate her with oil daily fro a week to see if the lump would pass on its own. There was no way of finding out what is was from the outside. She was also put on antibiotics to fight any local infection that might be going on and to prepare her for surgery if lactating would not work. The lactating did not work, so 10 days after the first vet visit my snake was operated on.

I decided to watch it. When the cut through the layers of skin and muscle had been made, the vet told me she saw extremely thickened veins along the bowel that normally would be hardly visible. This made me think the worst.... i know that is surely a sign of something bad going on. And we were right; first it looked like it might be a piece of bowel doubled up 'into itself' but then a horrible looking, almost ping pong ball sized chunk of tissue was exposed from within the bowel. It also looked like the the bowel was quite thick/filled downward, though she had not eaten for 2 months by then. Most probably the cancer had already spread. We decided to euthanize her, the nicest thing to do for her.

Research of the tumor and the body confirmed that the tumor was very aggressive and had spread into the blood and at several places on the veins cells had started to go haywire. Several organs were severely swollen and the bowel had widened almost entirely. Below are two pics of the tumor, I thought people mind find it interesting to see. In a way I did, as was the operation. Great to see how serious and precise my vet prepared and executed the operation, and how she thinks it is completely normal to shed a tear on a snake not making it :cry:

Tissue samples were taken from my girl to be used in a Paramyxovirus study by a student, so she might help other snakes survive in the future :)
 

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This is what she looked like

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I hope next year I'll have no more snakes pass away in my collection :(
 
Hey I'm really sorry but I try to see the good this time it is that by her dying 100's or 1000's might live.But again reallllly sorrrrrrrry
 
I am very sorry to here that. But I also agree its best to look on the bright side. There is a reason for everything and your snake may save 100s
 
I am so sorry! She was a beautiful girl! I am glad, however, that you did take her to the vet & find out what was wrong rather than just watching her waste away. And I am glad that the vet took samples that may help other animals in the future too, so that maybe someone else won't go through this. ((Blutengel))
 
Absolutely fascinating, Blutengel.
I am so terribly sorry you lost your snake. I would have shed a tear, too.
But I would also have been right in there with the veterinarian. Glad to here of the compassion joined with expertise and skill.

OT, but what are the current theories regarding paramyxovirus in snakes?
 
I'm so thankful to my vet how she helped me out many times and how she is always determined to find out what is going on when I come in with an animal. I had some not so usual cases going on since I first went to see her and she knows so much (she is the first Dutch (or maybe even European vet) to become a acknowledged/licensed reptile vet by a specialized American university or such).
 
BLUTENGEL...

I'm SO sorry for your loss! I thank you for sharing with everyone the cancer pix. I'd love it if we could figure out what causes the cancer. Is it the chemical in water or in their food? I hope we can find out soon. That was one beautiful snake!
 
Thank for the kind words :)
Your welcome.I didn't want to say how nice your snake looked because I thought it might make you feel worse but since pepole have said it it there is no point in not saying it .Again I'm sooooooo sorry.
 
I'm so sorry for your loss.

Thanks for the great photos. That was a huge tumor in her bowel. It is amazing to me how these animals can hide how sick they are.
 
It is amazing to me how these animals can hide how sick they are.
It certainly is. I lost one to a tumour a couple of years ago. It was only visible as a bulge for the last three weeks of his life and was initially treated as impacted constipation (there was an element of that but as it turned out, it was backed up behind the tumour) as he was eating, shedding and behaving normally .

When the vet operated, the tumour had actually been growing lengthwise through him for some time before growing "outwards" and giving the visible bulge that alerted me to the problem. He must have had it for months, but in all that time he only refused one feed and was as gentle as ever when handled.

I'm so sorry for your loss Blutengel, but thank you for sharing your story.
 
I am so sorry! Your snake was a beauty, and you obviously loved her dearly. It's never easy to lose a family member, no matter what its species. I would have bawled my eyes out.

You are both kind and generous. Kind, because you had your animal seen and treated, and in the end, put out of what must surely have been a painful existence. Generous for sharing not only your photos and observations, but also for allowing her tissue to be used in the cause of enlightenment so that her death might save others from the same fate, someday.

I empathize with your pain, and I hope you can take comfort in knowing that you did everything for her that you could.
 
Thanks for the support, it always feels like one could have done more in cases like this but rationally you know you're no snake wisperer and they really try to hide their true state of health.
 
My deepest condolences at the loss of your beautiful snake.

Besides the Paramyxovirus study, was a sample sent off for a histopathology to determine exactly what kind of cancer it was?
 
Not that i know off, but the vet is going to take microscopic photos she told me, so I think she is going to take a look at what it is exactly.
 
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