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Field Herping Went Great!!!!! ( INDENT PLEASE )

Retarted Geese

Retarted Geese

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Whew!! I got two today!!! Two nice ones! Please Identify...

I got this, a brand new hatchling/newborn... Here is a top and belly shot, he is gray and seems to have two black stripes appearing on his sides.
Belly
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Top shot
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Top shot
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Belly
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Also. Any help? I found them near a lake, the one actually in the water and the other coming out of the water, should I start feeding them minnows?





 
The 1st looks like it could be an eastern smooth green snake...they eat small worms and insects. The 2nd looks like a queen snake. These guys eat mostly crayfish and don't adapt well to captivity. I would let both of them go asap.

So, you didn't listen to anybody's advice about not getting another snake (especially WC). Why come here asking questions if you won't listen to the answers?
 
airenlow said:
The 1st looks like it could be an eastern smooth green snake...they eat small worms and insects. The 2nd looks like a queen snake. These guys eat mostly crayfish and don't adapt well to captivity. I would let both of them go asap.

So, you didn't listen to anybody's advice about not getting another snake (especially WC). Why come here asking questions if you won't listen to the answers?
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I must have missed out on some other threads, but once I saw these 2 small WC snakes my first thought was to observe them and let them go.
The best thing for them is to be RELEASED back where you got them.
 
I'm pretty sure the top one is an adult smooth earth snake. I agree with airenlow about the bottom being a queen snake - the belly stripes are pretty definitive.
 
Its a cute little something maybe a racer? Not sure to be honest, but do you understand its illegal to keep anything WC without a permit and repeatedly posting it here on a public site that is watched is going to get you caught?
 
glenhead said:
I'm pretty sure the top one is an adult smooth earth snake. I agree with airenlow about the bottom being a queen snake - the belly stripes are pretty definitive.
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That's what I thought at first too, but we aren't "supposed to" have them this far North in Ohio.
 
So you've kept animals you can't identify, you don't know their feeding habits and husbandry and you're flouting breaking the lawin collecting from the wild without a permit. Please just take them back and release them, they are not toys for your amusement.
 
glenhead said:
I'm pretty sure the top one is an adult smooth earth snake. I agree with airenlow about the bottom being a queen snake - the belly stripes are pretty definitive.
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THANK YOU for not saying something about a WC or a Permit or some fricken else that wouldn't help me much. Everytime I see another thread like this about identification NOBODY CARES ABOUT THEIR PERMIT OR W/E SO PLEASE PEOPLE STOP ASKING.
 
For future info, I got this from the Ohio DNR website...

WHEN DO YOU NEED A LICENSE AND WHAT CAN YOU LEGALLY DO?A propagating license application must be requested from the Division of Wildlife within 10 days after taking possession of any native reptile, amphibian or wood turtle (Clemmys insculpta).With a propagating license, except for state endangered species, an Ohio resident may possess:
• four total individuals of each wild-captured native reptile or amphibian from the list entitled “Wild-captured Native Reptiles and Amphibians”; and/or
• an unlimited number of animals captively produced or legally obtained from out of state, with proper documentation.
A $40 commercial propagating license is required for persons wishing to sell, offer for sale, trade, or barter native reptiles or amphibians which have been captively produced, legally obtained from out of state, or are the offspring of wild-captured animals. With this license, the license holder may possess for sale, trade or barter an unlimited number of reptiles and amphibians that are captively produced or legally obtained, with proper documentation.
A $25 noncommercial propagating license is required for persons who permanently possess native reptiles or amphibians but do not intend to sell, offer for sale, trade or barter animals. The license holder may possess an unlimited number of reptiles and/or amphibians of which only four total individuals of each reptile or amphibian have been taken from the wild.

Reptiles or amphibians taken from the wild in Ohio may NOT be bought, offered for sale, traded, bartered,or given as a gift.

RECORD KEEPING AND ANNUAL REPORTS
Commercial and Noncommercial Propagating License Holders
All propagating license holders must retain a certificate of origin, a bill of sale, receipted invoice, or other Division of Wildlife approved evidence of lawful acquisition for each individual of any taxa of reptile or amphibian captively produced or legally obtained from out of state. Accurate records for all animals, including wild-captured, must be maintained for five years by the license holder and be available for inspection by a representative of the Division of Wildlife at all reasonable hours.
 
Retarted Geese said:
THANK YOU for not saying something about a WC or a Permit or some fricken else that wouldn't help me much. Everytime I see another thread like this about identification NOBODY CARES ABOUT THEIR PERMIT OR W/E SO PLEASE PEOPLE STOP ASKING.
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If nobody cared about the permits we wouldn't mention them, ergo people do care about the permits. Taking animals from the wild without the permits is illegal.
 
Retarted Geese said:
Everytime I see another thread like this about identification NOBODY CARES ABOUT THEIR PERMIT OR W/E SO PLEASE PEOPLE STOP ASKING.
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If it's a wild caught animal, that the person intends on keeping, and it is known that in their area they need a permit for such activity...you bet the permit issue is brought up.

When most people ask for identification in herping threads...they do not intend on keeping the animal...therefore mention of permit issues are unnecessary.

You must realize that the people here love reptiles, and have a respect for reptiles. When they see a 15 year old taking animals out of the wild, when they do not even know what species it is...how are we supposed to think that the animal can be taken care of properly. I'm sorry, but taking wild animals without knowing the species, how to care for said species, and if it is even legal to take the species from the wild...is disrespect for the animal in my opinion.

It is one thing to take photos of an animal in situ and leaving it be...it is another thing to take that animal as a 'pet', especially when the species is not known.
 
Geese, people have been civil to you (at least from what I've seen) and they're giving you good advice designed to keep both you and your snake out of trouble. I see no reason to be rude about it. They're just trying to help you out, and ZoologyGirl has been kind enough to look up the relevant information for you. I would suggest you at least check it out and try not to pitch a fit (if I may be forgiven my Yankee-ism) when you're offered advice.
 
Hail_Britannia said:
Geese, people have been civil to you (at least from what I've seen) and they're giving you good advice designed to keep both you and your snake out of trouble. I see no reason to be rude about it. They're just trying to help you out, and ZoologyGirl has been kind enough to look up the relevant information for you. I would suggest you at least check it out and try not to pitch a fit (if I may be forgiven my Yankee-ism) when you're offered advice.
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Yea from what you've seen. Other times It's been nagging to me about permits or something they can find to nag at me about.
 
the only snake i seen like the first around here is a northern brown. please put them back though. we have given you the info and even if your parents do have a permit i doubt that both of those snakes will strive in captivity and one will die. if not both. leave "wild" caught animals exactly as the name states in the "wild". im not gonna be a nit picker saying i want a photo of the permit but i dont understand if your parents have a permit, why they have and and dont know the names of such standard species to the area. rule #1 of field herping. leave the area as you have found it. re flip over rocks, logs, dont litter, and especially release the animal right where you found him. its his home.
 
Yes, if you keep the 2nd snake it will probably die. They don't adapt to captivity well at all. My dad used to have a few. They all died pretty much.
 
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