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2010 Ghost Motleys Reduced!!!

Reptileman81

Reptileman81

Future professional
Making room for hatchlings so these guys have to go. I got these guys from Tinman in a trade as well as the parents. These guys do have a couple belly checkers here and there but are still Motleys. They eat every 5 days 1-2 pinks each.

1.0 Ghost Motley (as of 6-10 9g)
0.1 Ghost Motley (as of 6-10 8g)

Take the pair for $70+shipping. I will not sell separate. Sale $60+shipping.

My eggs are hatching any day now. I need to make room.

I ship using Reptiles Express. I am also Paypal Certified.

Pm me for any questions or anything else.

First pic the male. Other 2 pics female.
 

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Still available. I will admit pics stink. My camera sucks and I am no photographer lol. The last pic is pretty close to there color. These are Motleys but with that said they do have a couple belly checkers. Like maybe a dozen a snake.
 
Josh,

I'm sorry but dorsally they don't look like motleys to me. And the absence of belly checkers is a sure motley indicator, if they have any belly checkers at all, they are not motleys....

So how can a snake with belly checkers and a normal pattern be a motley?

Look, I am not trying to give you a hard time, but these guys are obviously not motleys.....
 
Josh,
Sending me a nasty and threatening pm is most definately NOT COOL.
(I have sent it to the mods for their review).

I realize that you had gotten them in a trade, but seriously dude, motleys don't look like these guys. That might be why they are taking so long to sell. I am not out to hurt you, but rather to help. The only motleys I have EVER heard of that had a few belly checkers are sunkissed motleys and in that case the dorsal pattern is not what one would expect in a motley either.
I have fairly decent camera, and if you need better pics of them I can help you with that if you wish this weekend.

Cornsnakes are not like purebred dogs, with "show quality" and "Pet quality", it is what it is. And a motley always has a completely bare belly and a varied dorsal pattern.

I will not, absolutely will not, delete my previous message.
However, if a mod has an issue with it, then he or she can do what they wish.
 
And yet ANOTHER nasty pm!

Ok, so we won't be friends.
But if I see something I percieve as a misrepresentation, I will speak up.
Anyone who considers themself a "future professional" should behave accordingly..
 
Reptileman81 said:
These are Motleys but with that said they do have a couple belly checkers. Like maybe a dozen a snake.
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Then they aren't motley's. Hate to pry or be rude, but motley's (as far as I know) NEVER have ANY belly checkers... especially not a dozen per snake, which would cancel out some freak anomaly where a motley might have a checker looking marking on the belly... just sayin'.
 
Ok so yet again the mods do nothing to help me. When I start taking smack on someone else's for sale threads I get in trouble for it. But yet others can talk smack to me on my for sale threads. How is this fair. Cause I have only been here for 6 months. Does that make me a newbie to you guys or something. I am not new to this world just this site. I will not be pushed around. I am tired of it. I am not asking you people to tell me what you think of these snakes. I am trying to sell them to someone. I believe they are motleys. Just like there parents are and there siblings were. Ask anyone a motley can have a few belly checkers. As far as your show quality and pet quality comment. Yes corns do have different qualities. You see it in everyone's collection. This persons morphs look different then this persons. I am not saying these are great quality motleys just that they are motleys. I am also only selling them for $30ea well with my sale this week $25 each. A good quality Ghost Motley is worth double if not triple that amount. So cause there quality is not the best there price is cheap. I cant believe you people are really giving me such a hard time over cheap snakes.

Yes I am a professional. If I have a problem with someones for sale thread, either it is a miss labeled morph or a ad worded wrong or what ever. I PM people about it. I dont publicly humiliate them like you are doing. That is rude, unprofessional and uncalled for. Leave me and my for sale threads alone for the last time. This is the 3rd for sale thread of mine you have attacked Bethany L. Duprey. I am over it and your bullying. You may not want to be bullied but you dont have a problem with dishing it out. BACK OFF

You have a problem with me like I said I will be at the show and the dinner this weekend.
 
Michael823 said:
Then they aren't motley's. Hate to pry or be rude, but motley's (as far as I know) NEVER have ANY belly checkers... especially not a dozen per snake, which would cancel out some freak anomaly where a motley might have a checker looking marking on the belly... just sayin'.
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See above...motleys don't have belly checkers!
One of the defining characteristics of the morph.
Selling these as motleys is like selling a german shepard as a great dane. They are both dogs, but there the resemblance ends.

Josh, I have no problem with you. But if I see you (or anyone else) misrepresenting an animal, I will speak up. It is nothing personal.

Wouldn't you rather listen, and change your ad instead of selling these as motleys and your customers down the road finding out that they aren't?
That would sink you, don't you think?

Oh, and thank you for the rep!

Edited to add : How about if I start a thread on the morphs and cultivar section, and ask if motleys ever have belly checkers...
Do you really think anyone will say they do?
 
Yeah the rep was a mistake. I was trying for negative rep. But I guess you can only do that on fauna. Lesson I really dont care what you think. I also am the same way as you. If I think that someone is mislabeling something I speak up. Sometimes it is a honest mistake on there part. But I do so with a PM. That is how you are suppose to do it. Not for the world to see on there for sale thread. All of this on my for sale threads you really think you are helping me. You really think that I am going to make customers with someone bad mouthing me and my knowledge publicly on here. No I dont think you are helping me. For that matter I never asked for your help. Now I cant delete this thread and start a new one cause you have ruined this one cause it is to old to delete. The last thread of mine that you ruined was the same way. The mods told me that rich does not want them deleting any old threads for people anymore either. So thank you for this. You may as well of put a thread in the BOI bad mouthing me. Those cant be deleted either just like this one is stuck here for ever and the other one you ruined for me.

Thanks again for making me look bad in front of the world. That is really professional.
 
I am NOT badmouthing you, Josh!!
Aside from being a bit hotheaded and stubborn you are probably a really nice guy.
I am also not badmouthing your snakes.
 
Once again I am sorry for the pic quality. I am no photographer and have a cheap camera. But the first 2 pics are the male and the other 3 are the female. The male has one belly checker by his head. The female has a few more. So the parents are motley the siblings are motley (can you say the male with 1 belly checker is not motley) so these are motley. Yes a motley snake can have belly checkers. Ask someone who has hatched out thousands of eggs. So I believe they are motleys and that is the end of it. The rest of you can believe what ever you want. If you are not interested in buying these then you and your messages do not belong here.

To anyone that is interested in doing business with me welcome. Do not mind these people I have a pretty good reputation for the short time I have been here. Here is my Good Guy BOI on fauna:

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170989
 

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MUCH better pics.
Yup, I take back everything I said, those are motleys.
Shame you didnt post pics this good before.
Their color even looks tons better.
I love that pinky hue.

I was wrong, I admit it.

*extends an olive branch*
 
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