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agressive or not?

Swe_Corn

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Hi folks!

Just curious does it matter for ya if your snake is agressive or calm as a rock?

For my own matter i just don´t care if my snake is grumpy or not because i´m not in the intrest of having them in my lap and cuttle, that i leave to my dog and cat...

whats your thoughts?
 

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It doesn't matter to me as each one of my snakes react differently and have several different dispositions.

The only thing that bothers me is a snake that is entirely skittish and afraid all the time.

Aggressive behaviour doesn't bother me as long as it doesn't interfere with my being able to take care of the snake.

Personally, I prefer a more moderately aggressive snake than a mild one as aggressive snakes tend to be a little more active and sometimes better feeders. But then again, I don't make it a habit of handling my snakes all the time, even my lovable 13+ year old corn whom doesn't mind being held all that much. I just don't think that snakes in general are meant to be handled all that much even if they are docile in nature. But that's just me :shrugs:
 
I prefer a more docile snake because I have a daughter who just loves to hold the snakes...as do I. I do have a florida king that was a bit bitey, but has settled down quite nicely. She hasn't lost any of her confidence, though, and I still don't allow my daughter to hold that one. She can only pet her while I hold her...
 
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well its always nice if they are calm to handle...it makes the handling easier of course...but if i find a snake that I really want its not their behaviour that decides if i will buy them or not
 
Thankfully, both of mine are very calm. I prefer this because i enjoy holding them. My normal is calm as they possibly come. Since i live by myself, he keeps me a lot of company. I take him with me from room to room and he will just relax on me. I couldn't just sit there and stare it through the tank. At this point hes more like a friend, rather than just a "pet".
 
Swe_Corn said:
well its always nice if they are calm to handle...it makes the handling easier of course...but if i find a snake that I really want its not their behaviour that decides if i will buy them or not
Well, I completely agree with this. I don't base my decision to purchase or not on the temperment of the snake. For kingsnakes, it is based solely on their "look". For cornsnakes, it is based mostly on their genetics, as I plan on breeding in the very near future, and I am looking to accomplish specific breeding goals, so the look and temperment is not nearly as important as the homo and heterozygous genetics available...

If I "end up" with a snake that has an attitude problem, I just work with them until they settle as much as possible, and explain to my daughter why she isn't allowed to hold that one. Even at 3, she understands the difference between "her" snakes and "daddy's" snakes...
 
Swe_Corn said:
well its always nice if they are calm to handle...it makes the handling easier of course...but if i find a snake that I really want its not their behaviour that decides if i will buy them or not
That pretty much sums up my feelings on this. :)
 
Swe_Corn said:
if i find a snake that I really want its not their behaviour that decides if i will buy them or not

I agree with that as well. I don't purchase a snake solely based on it's behaviour, but wasn't the topic about you liking the behaviour of the snakes you already owned?
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I think for me I would much prefer a snake that's not aggressive(I don't want to be yelling "pineapple" all the time) Tiaga my adult can be very aggressive when she's eating but otherwise she's a total sweetheart. My 2 babies have never shown aggression at all which I"m thankful for.
 
Swe_Corn said:
well its always nice if they are calm to handle...it makes the handling easier of course...but if i find a snake that I really want its not their behaviour that decides if i will buy them or not

Do you buy snakes just to breed and sell them?

Or just to look at them?
 
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suecornish said:
Do you buy snakes just to breed and sell them?

Or just to look at them?

My answer to that is no i don´t keep them just too breed and get some cash...ive been keeping corns and a big load of different animals during my nearly 8 years as a keeper and this year is my first year of breeding corns accually so i´m expecting eggs from 2 female corns so i´m not in it for the money :)

i keep my animals because i love all there is about them , reptiles are wonderful creatures and very interesting to study in every way so... my biggest passion in this world is animals and reptiles cats and dog are on my top 3 list=)
 
My top animal love is dogs. second would probably be cats. But reptiles I love in a different way. I love the way they move and want to be able to handle them to be able to observe thier movements. So I'd have to say I personally wouldn't want an aggressive animal.
 
I'd prefer a calmer snake, which I have been lucky with Phantom, my ghost corn. But if I did get a snake that had a mild attitude thats okay too, as long as it doesn't interfere with taking care of them. My new girl is a bit skittish, but she's in a new environment so thats to be expected, but Im sure with gentle handling she'll calm down.
 
I like calm snakes so it's taking me time to get used to Gaia. She's just a baby and hasn't tamed down yet. I am finding I like snakes because I can deal with them on my own terms. If I don't feel up to handling them I can let them be and they don't bug me. Don't get me wrong, I love my dogs but....

I was raised with a Dalmation/Boxer mix. We slept together, Mom would give me two dog biscuits for her and while she was eating one I was eating the other, we played together, when I was sick she kept watch. She died on Palm Sunday while I was watching the "Song of Bernadette" on TV when I was 13. This was the first taste of death that I had. I did not like it. While I have come to terms with death I find that I just can't get too huggy, lovey with my dogs. A teenage hangup I guess. :-offtopic

Well, that's why I like snakes. I like learning about and taking care of "pets" as long as they don't "expect" an overly affectionate owner. My husband more than makes up for it.
 
Swe_Corn said:
by the way its a mix of cornsnake and texas ratsnake
Hmm...A guy I know wants to rent my Texas rat as a stud to breed with his anery female or snow female corn. I am not sure sure I want to make a hybrid. Looks mean though! Just like my Buddy :) I don't mind the meanness really. I just don't trust my rat snake as much as my corns. They are after all snakes. :grin01:
 
I agree with all that has been said, although i would prefer a calmer snake.

I think im right in saying that aggressive behaviour stems from fear/stress in all animals. If frequent handling during their youth can mean a lifetime of calmness/less stress for the snake then why not.
 
TWGarland said:
I think im right in saying that aggressive behaviour stems from fear/stress in all animals. If frequent handling during their youth can mean a lifetime of calmness/less stress for the snake then why not.
I am going to have to disagree with this kind of over-generalization.

Not all animals can be tamed by handling and/or familiarity with the handler. This doesn't mean it is because those animals are afraid or stressed, it's an instinctual survival response.

At best, a handler can become highly attuned to that animal's behaviors and learn how to intermingle successfully with it, but that doesn't equate to the animal being tamed. It's more like the handler has been trained to accomodate the animal behaviors, not the other way around.

Even so-called tamed animals sometimes react aggressively due to their primal natural instincts for unknown reasons. This doesn't mean that the animal was afraid or stressed. But it can mean that the handler was either not in tune with that animals behavioral pattern that day or it could have been an anomalous event.

I honestly believe that it can be dangerous when you over-generalize about taming animals, especially reptiles. It allows people to think that their pet snake is incapable of reacting in an aggressive manner because it has been "tamed" due to lots of handling. The truth is, no animal should ever be thought of as being tamed. That way you never lose focus of what that animals true abilities to react in a fashion which you are unprepared for. :)
 
cats - they pee on you and it STinks!!

Dogs - They Leave hair all over ur clothes!!


Snakes - Fall Asleep and keep ur leg warm!


Ummmmmmmm, wonder witch one's are best for holding... :/


Nice snake though.
 
DeadMouse said:
I am going to have to disagree with this kind of over-generalization.

Not all animals can be tamed by handling and/or familiarity with the handler. This doesn't mean it is because those animals are afraid or stressed, it's an instinctual survival response.

At best, a handler can become highly attuned to that animal's behaviors and learn how to intermingle successfully with it, but that doesn't equate to the animal being tamed. It's more like the handler has been trained to accomodate the animal behaviors, not the other way around.

Even so-called tamed animals sometimes react aggressively due to their primal natural instincts for unknown reasons. This doesn't mean that the animal was afraid or stressed. But it can mean that the handler was either not in tune with that animals behavioral pattern that day or it could have been an anomalous event.

I honestly believe that it can be dangerous when you over-generalize about taming animals, especially reptiles. It allows people to think that their pet snake is incapable of reacting in an aggressive manner because it has been "tamed" due to lots of handling. The truth is, no animal should ever be thought of as being tamed. That way you never lose focus of what that animals true abilities to react in a fashion which you are unprepared for. :)

Absolutely perfect way of putting it! think ROY, and his tiger attack, Yes the tiger was "trained", but was still a wild animal and when it saw something(we'll never know what) distressed him he did what came naturally.

The same goes with snakes.Tiaga never bit in the 3 years we had her, till I made the mistake of trying to take her from her feeding tub back to her viv before she was out of "hunt mode". Yep she tagged me and it was all my fault. It's just the way of animals, you have to know they truly are still "wild" even though we've had them in captivity for many generations, it doesn't take the wild out of them.
 
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