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[erwin]

Are you able the help me with the correct names for my snow motley's hetero stiped.
The first is a man. These I have bought and then had he 2 small red spots. Such as you can see there coming more and more.
Is able it is ruby freckled ?

The following 2 is of its sisters.
I think that 1 of the animals is coral snow motley.
What thinks you?

Greets Erwin
Belgium

 

[princess]

I think Serp is a better person to answer this but I think it's not possible to be homozygous motley and het for stripe.

Is the one you think is coral snow homo hypo, anery and amel? If not, then it's just a nice, strongly coloured snow motley. Motley often brings out the colour intensity I've found.

Nice snakes you have there :cheers:

 

[Joejr14]

I think Serp is a better person to answer this but I think it's not possible to be homozygous motley and het for stripe.

Is the one you think is coral snow homo hypo, anery and amel? If not, then it's just a nice, strongly coloured snow motley. Motley often brings out the colour intensity I've found.

Nice snakes you have there :cheers:

You are absolutely correct. Since motley and stripe are both found on the motley locus (note that there is no stripe locus) it is impossible for any snake to be homozygous for one, and heterozygous for the other. If both genes are present at the motley locus the snake is known as a motley/stripe.

Right about the coral part too. If you don't know if they're homozygous for hypo then you cannot call them coral snows. You'll have to wait to test breed them before you can accurately call them coral snow mots.

And about the ruby freckling bit---I suppose you could call it that. I know I've said this before to you, but I don't think that ruby freckling is a genetic trait, so I'm not even really sure why the name exists. Seems to me it's just an anomoly.

 

[erwin]

That motley hetero for stiped could be thought I firstly also. But I have this year my man amel motley X anery motley against each other put and I got these animals from the eggs.
The first 2 is of father and mother.
What the man snow concerns motley.
These will called in the future very beautiful snow motley.
He nevertheless always remains in my collectie.
I am in love with tis snake :crazy01:
What the parents of these snow motley's were of colour or pattern has there I no idea of. :headbang:
Therefore the future that must expel :bowdown:
Greets from Belgium

 

[erwin]

Can someone tell me how it is possible the motley X motley. Striped baby's can give if motley cannot hetero be for striped :shrugs:

 

[princess]

Hi Erwin,

Joe already explained it...to quote him...



'Since motley and stripe are both found on the motley locus (note that there is no stripe locus) it is impossible for any snake to be homozygous for one, and heterozygous for the other. If both genes are present at the motley locus the snake is known as a motley/stripe.'


That's a good simple explination -but as english isn't your first language it might be easier for you if someone explains it to you in a PM.

How's your German? Pewter should be able to translate well for you but there are plenty of German and Dutch people and a couple of Belgians who might be able to help you out.

 

[SnakeAround]

Ok, in Dutch;
Motley en streep zitten op dezelfde plek op de genen; er komt 1 gen van pa en 1 gen van pa op terecht om het 'hokje' motley of streep 'aan te vinken'. Als pa en ma geen motley geven, krijgt de slang het gewone patroon; als de slang van 1 ouder motley krijgt is hij hetro motley. als hij van 1 ouder streep krijgt, is hij hetero streep. Een slang kan dus echter ook streep van zijn moeder krijgen en motley van zijn pa of andersom, die belanden op dezelfde plekken. Dan is die slang voor beide patronen hetro. Streep en motley zijn echter -co-dominant' en geven streep-motley slangen, met een patroon er tusen in. Ik denk dat 1 van jouw motley ouderslangen eigenlijk een motley-streep is die toevallig meer richting motley gaat qua uiterlijk. Afhankelijk van de verhouding gestreepte versus motley slangen zou het zelfs kunnen dat beide ouderdieren eigenlijk streep-motley zijn, maar het zou erg toevallig zijn als je het bij beide niet zou zien...

Overigens kan het volgens mij ook nog zo zijn dat het eigelijk wel een volbloed motley is, maar eentje die er uit ziet als een streep. Je kunt namelijk ook door selectief te kweken gestreepte slangen uit motleys kweken. Vaak zie je echter wel verschil met 'echte' gestreepte slangen; diegene die eigenlijk volbloed motley zijn, hebben een smallere lichte middenstreep op de rug en vaak ook onregelmatig van dikte. Dat zie ik bij jouw slangen wel. Maar goed, een streep-motley kan er dus ook zo uitzien...

Heeft dit een beetje geholpen?

 

[erwin]

thanks you blutengel and everyone on the forum.
Reading in English that goes without problems but the letter is a another tale. :shrugs:
There I need a translation programme for. uke01:
Greets Erwin