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an interesting substrate

mattsnake

snake hunter
I was at a reptile expo in Maine recently(where i got my little female candy cane!) and I saw an intersesting substrate. It was like realy thick ground up paper. It was like normal repti-bark, only it was paper, and a grayish-white color.

Does anyone use/heard of this?
:)
 
I'll second that

Sounds like Care Fresh. You should be able to find it at any large pet store. (PetCo has it here in Texas) Melinie uses Care Fresh for her critters and swears by it.
 
care fresh

i wouldnt use care fresh it's more for the mice,gerbils,rats and ferrets.. at the pet storee i used to work at the snakes would always end up eating it do to the fact we used care fresh for our pinkies as soon as the pinkies hit the care fresh they were eaten and then five mins later the snakes would go back to the same stop and try eating th care fresh... this only happend like 4 times when i worked there.. since then i had them change to aspen and everything has gone over well
 
Once again this is a clear case why feeding in the cage is not advised because they can swallow the substrate.
 
I've researched Carefresh some on the net..

and while I don't believe everything I read; I SERIOUSLY doubt that a snake ingesting the product in a small amount (such as what would stick to the side of a rodent) could cause an impaction problem. But I wouldn't personally use it. Aspen seems much more likely have adverse affects if swallowed. Bottom line is, big ol' sheet of newspaper allows you to feed your snake in it's enclosure, another reason I use it.

No offense, Kahman, but when you have lots (over ten, certainly over twenty) of snakes, moving them all to feed just isn't an option any longer. :)
 
You're not kidding...I have around 50 (counting babies), and it is definitely not feasible to move them all to separate containers for feeding.
 
I'm a big dumb animal, folks!

Believe it or not, I STILL move all 75 into a secondary feeding container. It easily adds an extra hour to my husbandry days but it is actually less of a hassle that trying to feed and clean around the occupants. Especially that prissy little Silver Queen......:eek:
 
I have a prissy little ratsnake and you try changing substrate with her in da cage, so I hear your cry mate!!!
 
only 37 here - I feed the adults in separate containers (they are on aspen), but the babies (on paper towel) get fed in their tubs

we do use carefresh for some of our dragons, and find it to be a good substrate for them,

Skye
 
I know I have been told not use calci sand but I take my little one out and put it into a separate container to feed so I haven't had to much of a prob.
 
Calci-Sand

The other reason not to ues Calci-sand for corn snakes is that it can have a dryin effect, and can also work its way between their scales. Sounds uncomfortable to me. :rolleyes:

Then again, I have never actually used it; this is just what I have heard from other people.
 
I have twelve

I have twelve snakes at this time and I feed all of them in separate containers.
I am expecting four Okeetees tomorrow and those will also be fed in separate containers.
By The Way...The four Okeetees are my end of a trade for two black kings.
 
I just counted

And now have sixty-nine snakes, unless I missed somebody! :D My hat's off to you CAV, if I were to move each one, I'd have to feed ten a night or worry about escapes in my makeshift enclosures I'd be forced to use if I ran out. Plus a few of them bite, so it's much easier to clean and feed on seperate days.

Were it only corns and similarly dispositioned snakes, I'd have an easier life. Anybody want a mean Asian ratsnake or fussy feeding-grayband? I'll make ya a great deal. :rolleyes:
 
You gotta have a system

Gee elrojo, I'm just another small-timer like you. Imagine what Rich or Don goes through every week......:eek:
 
I am impressed by the fact that you can have that many snakes. Do you have a building set up for them alone or are they in you house.
 
I have forty-seven including hatchlings and still move them to feeding bins or deli cups. Like Cav said you have to have a system. But mind you that only once a month are all of mine feed the same night I have 9 adults that get fed every two weeks and three adults that are fed once a month. And that add an hour if all are feeding the same night.
 
I have 74 animals right now, and I feed each of the adults and juvies in separate containers, but the babies are kept in their own deli cups, so they're fed there. For me, it works.

It takes a little longer to feed that way, but I also clean out the vivs of the larger animals as they're eating, so it actually probably evens out. I do find myself feeding some animals almost every night, but that's as much about my crazy schedule than anything else!

:eek:
 
They're in my house!

In fact, I lost my girlfriend of over three years tonight, in part, because I had broken a promise to not get more snakes than would take up one room! :(

I use my office for most of them, but have lots in a spare bedroom. I heat the entire rooms and supply heat to the cages. The trick is making rack systems that allow you to fit lots of animals in a small space. Boaphile plastics makes a nice "Sideways blanket box rack" to anyone with only five adult (or more if you have smaller specimens) corns. If you grow beyond that, I'd recommend making your own. Check Arbreptiles.com for schematics, or get a good carpenter to make them. Remember, they can escape through an opening you'd never imagine. So have them built tight! :)
 
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