Another Visual Het Discussion

[Yarmuck]

So here's the scenario. Some time ago I bought this boy who both the breeder and I thought to be an Amel Anery Charcoal het Diffused. He looked quite different from the other Blizzards in the clutch. And as he grew, his saddles came in to be a very strong Lemon-drop color. The point being is that he looks quite dissimilar to Blizzards. So this year, I paired this guy up with my Lava Snow gal in hopes to make Lava Amel Anery Charcoals (hopefully diffused) down the line.

So when it comes down to the pippies, imagine my surprise when half of them are snows, and half of them are Amels. So it turns out this guy was indeed a Blizzard het for Anery and Diffused.

Now I'm not really upset since I still got 5.5 snows for my project needs, but it did bring up a very interesting thought. Given the right pallet, in this case a Blizzard, the het of Anery seemed to affect the color in a very visual way. Here are a couple of pics of the boy:

Now as we know, its really hard to photograph white snakes and let their true color show, but this guy has some really prominent yellow saddles.

I know there are two sides to the argument of whether or not hets can be seen, but this might be evidence to the latter.

Discussion?

 

[Lyion]

Sorry, I don't know enough to answer but I have a question as well. Someone told me IRL that they noticed all their het BR have weird head patterns, and not the normal BR head pattern.

Anyone seen this?

 

[Shiari]

I've seen other blizzards, sans anery even in het, that have been quite yellow in the saddles as well. It's just something some of them do.

 

[5 Star Serpents]

I have seen "lemonpeel" blizzards that have quite yellow saddles, now I don't know if they were het or even ph het anery for that matter...What I do notice that is different in your guy as opposed to those however is the yellowing along the neck which is commonly (almost ALWAYS) seen in anery A's.

 

[rich333]

Not sure if your onto something or not. But for the sake of scientific argument, heres a blizzard i produced last year using a Phantom het Amel,Anery,Diffusion X Ultramel Charcoal ph anery.

 

[airenlow]

Here is my Blizzard from Rich's clutch...

 

[dave partington]

what if anery a and anery b were bred together, would some of offspring sometimes still be visually anery>
and if some amel got in the mix, then mightn't some blizzards develop yellow, or, if they contained some hypo from a grandparent, or, ultra, or dilute, from a grandparent, (and there's another one that escapes me at the moment, perhaps caramel) couldn't that cause some yellow to develop, even though they weren't homozygous for any of those other color changing factors?

 

[jessicashallperish]

I have a blizzard het diffused that expresses alot of yellow on him under certain light. at first there was alot of debate on if he was blizzard or whiteout but eventually i caught the yellow belly checkers. its not uncommon for a blizzard to show color.

 

[Drizzt80]

Yellow is a very interesting when you're talking about the Anery's and Charcoals. I think it holds pretty true to form that the Charcoal yellowing is a pastel, lighter, lemony yellow while the Anery yellow is a mustardy deep yellow.

I think the white background on a blizzard or snow affects how that yellow looks visually because you don't have the black contrast. I don't know what that means pertaining to your questions, but I do know that I have hatched and raised Blizzards that had anywhere from no yellow at all to very distinct yellow saddles. There was no confirmed Anery in any of those examples.

I think there's a yellow affecting gene that is separate from Caramel especially considering the amount of yellow background that shows up in some of the different Normal lines of snakes including a pairing I have that almost looks completely Hypo but isn't.

:shrugs:
D80

 

[airenlow]

Here is another yellow Blizzard that I'm snake-sitting for a while...