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Are these eggs duds, or should I try to incubate?

I always feed my new babies in the deli cups I'm keeping them in but babies are kept on paper towel. The stress of putting them in a different container to feed will often sabotage your efforts...they feel most confident in their own homes. Once they are well established and eating every time, then you can think about substrate and moving them. Since cleaning daily is pretty much a given with babies (they spill their water etc all the time) they won't get a feeding response as many people will claim. Congrats on your clutch!
 
MegF. said:
I always feed my new babies in the deli cups I'm keeping them in but babies are kept on paper towel. The stress of putting them in a different container to feed will often sabotage your efforts...they feel most confident in their own homes. Once they are well established and eating every time, then you can think about substrate and moving them. Since cleaning daily is pretty much a given with babies (they spill their water etc all the time) they won't get a feeding response as many people will claim. Congrats on your clutch!
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Thanks for the tips Meg! Will definitely do my best to imitate that as close as possible! All 4 are hatched now and doing very well. One seems to want to be in it's water dish non stop for some reason, but it looks healthy and strong. So maybe it thinks it's part sea snake or something :rolleyes:
 
Might be just getting ready to shed, but just to be sure, you might want to laser temp the container and make sure you don't have a hot spot that's making it too warm.
 
Ah yes duuh! Yeah it's gotta be due to shed since they are all utilizing the same ambient temps right now in their deli's :)
 
So last night I decided to cut into the last egg that we had not verified for certain was a dud, and sadly found this guy. His egg was not looking good compared to the 4 good ones that hatched coming in before this last week. He was definitely deceased inside the egg as I was extremely careful not to risk hurting him if he was in fact alive and just lagging on hatching.

Anyone know by looking at this little guy if it was something I possibly did? Or was it just a natural thing perhaps? I know they can drown if the egg is moved, but I don't recall that happening recently as we haven't touched them since we first moved them from the main cage to the incubator tub. I would think they all would have drowned if so though. Kind of bummed he developed so far and then somewhere along the line crashed out. Very happy we got 4 healthy hatchlings though!

Anyhow, thought that some of you more experienced with this might have better insight and might be able to tell based on these pics. I blurred out the first one as it was kinda graphic, just in case any one has a very light stomach ha!
 

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If the other eggs hatched fine, (and they did), you didn't do anything to make that one "go bad." That baby had something wrong that was not compatible with life. I never cut eggs. I'd rather just not know. Lots of people do egg autopsies, though.
 
Thanks Nanci. Yeah I wasn't sure if I should or not, but his egg was at that questionable state where I wasn't sure if it was gone or just a late bloomer. Once I opened it a tiny bit and could see a snake pattern, but zero movement, I just went for it the rest of the way once I could tell he was not alive. I have a young Indigo who benefited from the body anyhow, so it didn't go to waste. Still bummed he didn't make it through like his siblings. But, that is life. We are so grateful for the 4 that did make it, and will do everything we can to ensure they have healthy, happy lives :)
 
Looks like it's a bit kinked but don't know if that's just because of the way it came out of the egg....I've had some that are just DIE without any real reason....look fully formed just never came out. There's usually something wrong, we just can't see it...
 
And I don't have a squeamish stomach....I like to see the pictures because it can be interesting to see what sorts of things go wrong. I don't pip eggs just for that reason...if they can't come out on their own...there's usually a reason. I've seen eggs that were cut to help make it "easier" for the baby to come out, and they come out but clearly would not have, had nature taken it's course....
 
I had two eggs that slit and bubbles come out but the baby never emerged from the egg. I left them be for about a week and then frozen them over night and buried them in the backyard. I couldn't bring myself to open them up.

Like others have said, some are just not meant to survive. :( Mother nature has her secrets as to the whys of life.

Congrats on the beautiful babies!!!
 
Yeah it seems it was just one of those things here with this poor guy. Curiosity got the best of me though and I couldn't resist peeking inside just to see. I definitely understand all those who prefer not to see though. Hopefully I didn't bum anyone out too badly by posting the sad part of all this. Soon as a get some more time I will post pics of all the happy squiggly reptile worms we added to our family here :)
 
I'm one of those that would almost certainly have to cut an egg like that, to see what was inside and what might have been wrong.
 
I will cut an egg when I'm certain whatever in it is not coming out and is dead. I do like to see what the baby looked like...I'm curious that way. Sometimes they are barely developed, some are very kinked or have obvious defects, but sometimes, you just don't know why...
 
Took me long enough but here is a pic of all the kids and their "deli cup" setups. All 4 have eaten twice now and all but one took f/t for their first meal. The second meal they all took f/t :)
 

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Yeah feeling very lucky with these little worms. Will be very hard to find them homes that I will feel good about letting them go to :)
 
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