[ask] is it Mexican Black Kingsnake, Black Kingsnake, or Chocolate Kingsnake?

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Hi all,

I have a kingsnake, but it make me doubt whether it a MBK, Black Kingsnake, or Chocolate Kingsnake..so may i ask for a help to identify it?

Here is 2 picture of it (i still don't know my snake is male or female)

Thanks for your help :wavey:

--bram--

 

[Nanci]

If you don't know from buying it- we'd probably need a very close up of the head to see scalation.

Nanci

 

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If you don't know from buying it- we'd probably need a very close up of the head to see scalation.

Nanci

Oh Nanci, i'll try my best to give you the close up of the head..
Thanks for the help though :wavey:

--bram--

 

[tyflier]

Based solely on,looks(which CAN be decieving), it appears to be a Mexican Black Kingsnake, Lampropeltis getual negritas. A "Chocolate king" would most likely be in referance to a California king, which is more brown, not black. And a "Black Kingsnake"...haven't heard of it...perhaps you mean "Black Milksnake", or Lampropeltis triangulum gaigea, which are tri-colored as hatchlings until about 1 year or so of age...which yours obviously isn't.

 

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@ Tyfiler : what i mean Black Kingsnake is Lampropeltis getula nigra is it the same with the Lampropeltis getula nigrita??

I try to capture the close up look from it, i dont know whether it will help you all to identify it or not :shrugs:
Here are the pictures

Thanks all :wavey:

--bram--

 

[Matthew]

@ Tyfiler : what i mean Black Kingsnake is Lampropeltis getula nigra is it the same with the Lampropeltis getula nigrita??

Eastern Black Kingsnakes (Lampropeltis getula nigra) almost 'always' have some sort of gray/white banding or blotches. This is true of 99% of the specimens you'll come across.

I'm with Chris...looks like a Lampropeltis getula nigrita (MBK) to me.

 

[Nanci]

I vote MBK

MBK Scalation:

Dorsal: 23 - 25 rows
Ventral: 213 - 225
Sub-caudal: 47 - 56
lnfralabial: 9 - 10
Supralabial: 7 - 8
Analplate: Single

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Common Name:
Black Kingsnake
Scientific Name:
Lampropeltis getula niger
Size:
Hatchlings: 7 - 8 in.
Adults: 36 - 48 in.

Scalation:
Dorsal: 21
Ventral: 198 - 217
Sub-caudal: 39 - 55
lnfralabial: 9 - 10
Supralabial: 7
Analplate: Single

Coloration
Head:
Normally is black with varying degrees of white or yellow speckling.

Dorsal:
This animal is a dark colored animal that has been described as a poorly marked speckled or desert king. As the name implies it is sometimes entirely black, but most individuals display varying amounts of vague speckling to individuals that display a evident but poorly defined series of very narrow chain-like dorsal crossbars.

Ventral:
Normally is about a 50 % split of white and black with no patter.

 

[jazzgeek]

Nanci, I just repped you for the "Cairn Terrier" post, so I can't for the above Cliff Clavin response.

My vote is with MBK as well.

regards,
jazz

 

[tyflier]

Nope...not the same thing at all. I just looked up L.g. nigra and found that they look vastly different than the average L.g.negritas. The Black Kingsnake appears to have a lot of "blotching" or coloration other than balck, especially towards the ventral area and around the mouth and face. MBKs are usually almost solid black, including ventral, except for potentially a few small white spots around the chin and/or mouth.

I stand by my original assessment...yours appears to be an MBK. Welcome to the Club!! :cheers:

 

[Ohana]

I have no clue, but I do think that is a very pretty snake. WoW, I would love to have that snake!

 

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so it's a MBK
thanks all for the answers

Thanks Ohana

Thank once again :wavey:

--bram--

 

[snake5007]

I'm gonna say Indigo, just to be awkward. :grin01:

 

[debb]

MBK! :dancer: Welcome to the club. Nice lookin membership card ya got there.:spinner: