Bloodred Question...

[KJUN]

Even though the caramel gene mixed with bloodred appears to lack diffusion,

Don Soderberg has a caramel blood from Chad Fuchs's that is pretty darn sweet looking. Mybe we WILL begin to see more deffused ones as they are backcrossed into better blood stock? Shrug? I don't know. Time will tell, eh? I agree, however, that caramel bloods as a rule don't have a very diffused pattern AT ALL. Sad.....

 

[Susan]

Thanks Susan for the explanation regarding the belly checks. However this confuses me more since my motley line has a bare belly. I guess I have to pay greater attention to the heads of the various ones that hatch from these two females next year. Of course I need to find a bloodred male someplace for them to breed true.

OK...now I'm confused! When did the motley gene come into this conversation about bloodreds? If you plan on mixing the bloodred/diffuse gene with motley and/or stripe gene(s), then you'll have to use the dorsal pattern to tell the normal patterned bloodreds from the motley and/or striped bloodreds, and if you have to try to tell the regular motleys from the bloodred motleys, sometimes the only ways are by using the head pattern and side diffusion (if present) or wait until you can use a breeding trail to verify the actual genetics. Personally, if I could, I would let someone else go through all the trouble and purchase snakes that they have already proven the genetics on if I were looking to combine bloodred and motley or stripe.

 

[DragonBoy]

Sorry I confused the whole issue...I am just learning to recognize the motleys by mainly using the lack of belly checks. If they have an obvious motley dorsal pattern it helps but a couple of my babies have lacked that but had the clear bellies.
My reason for mentioning it was not to combine the two but simply stating that more than one (ie motley and bloodred) have the missing belly checks.
This whole genetic issue argh....

 

[Blue Apple Herps]

Sorry I confused the whole issue...I am just learning to recognize the motleys by mainly using the lack of belly checks. If they have an obvious motley dorsal pattern it helps but a couple of my babies have lacked that but had the clear bellies.
My reason for mentioning it was not to combine the two but simply stating that more than one (ie motley and bloodred) have the missing belly checks.
This whole genetic issue argh....

Correct - motley/stripe have clear bellies. Bloodreds also have clear bellies, so both of these pattern morphs have clear bellies, even though they're two distinct mutations.

 

[Susan]

Sorry I confused the whole issue...I am just learning to recognize the motleys by mainly using the lack of belly checks. If they have an obvious motley dorsal pattern it helps but a couple of my babies have lacked that but had the clear bellies.
My reason for mentioning it was not to combine the two but simply stating that more than one (ie motley and bloodred) have the missing belly checks.
This whole genetic issue argh....

LOL! OK...just making sure my sole remaining semi-functional brain cell hadn't gone completely schitzoid on me!