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Can corns eat hamsters?

Almase said:
Oh, these two are really friendly. They cost $10 and mice are $2 at that petshop. I think I might be able to get one mouse for each of them. They can take a tumble though. Thats true haha.
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you know, it might be smarter to actually talk to a pet shop and trade for mice. maybe you can get 6-7 mice for the price of these guys in trade. You are thinking just sheer pleasure of killing your hamsters and not thinking on how to turn this around and either make a profit for yourself to feed your snake or just help it out.
 
The petshops usually buy pets buy for like 3 tenths of the cost or something like that. I wouldnt be able to get 6-7 $2 mice for the price of one $10 hamster. I would be able to maybe get two mice for both the hamsters. But why bother trading when I can just buy the mice, its not that much money. Besides that means I have two little hamsters I can feed or torture for my own pleasure. (Satire humor)
 
Consider that:

A-Most pet shops don't "pay" for their mice...at least not directly. 3-4 mice per hamster seems like a fair business trade. Something that you can charge $10-12 a pop in trade for something that cost nothing but feed to produce.

B-Mice will be better for your corn. As stated earlier, hamsters are too large for the average adult corn.

C-Get live mice in trade and you lose nothing in sadistic pleasure, but gain 6 or so weeks of food rather than 2.

To me, after reading the VERY knowledgable information presented by Carol recently, it seems a "no brainer" to at least make a call to the pet shop and ask them if they'd be willing to make the trade. You've really nothing to lose and everything to gain...
 
lol, I'll call em. Im not saying I wont...But that "sheer pleasure of killing" thing is BS. I dont kill for sheer pleasure. I sacrifice for pleasure. Big difference. (Again satire humor) I think trick read something wrong, and then you took what I said wrong also....And BTW I had no intentions of giving the snake a hamster diet. I only asked the question cause I have two hamsters. I just dont want you all to think I was gonna buy hamsters all the time to feed. That'd be expensive. heh heh
 
I caught your humor. My "sub-topic 'C'" was meant as a joke. I realised you were kidding...the "(satire humour)" helped, but I got it ;).
 
lol, Ok. Just wanted to make sure no one thought I was weird or nothin like that. I mean I've seriously considered skinning a mouse because I think a mouse pelt would look kinda cool and different hung up on my wall. But thats no reason to think a guy is sadistic is it? I mean its just a hobby like hangin up deer skin. :)
 
It's only sadistic if the mouse is still alive, you use a dull knife, and you soak the still breathing critter in a vat of lemon juice after skinning... :sidestep:
 
haha. Im glad snake owners have a sense of humor. I was in a hamster forum when I got my hammies and I couldnt joke about anything relating to animals. I think people who own carnivorous animals know more about life and such than herbavore owning people. I mean we watch animals kill other animals and we understand better that that is how nature works. Animals kill another animal to survive. If I would of went in the hamster thing and questioned if a snake could eat a hamster I would of got yelled at by everyone and maybe banned lol....I did eventually get banned but it was because we were talking politics and my view on politics is the same with animals. Kill your enemies before they kill you. After all humans are animals too. Its the way things work. -_-
 
Oh, what I mean by kill your enemies is in war, I dont mean literally to go out and kill somone you dont like. lol
 
My sense of humour and my understanding of life's harsh realities have nothing to do with my being a snake owner. In fact, I might eb a snake owner because of those things, but definitely not vie-versa.

My sense of humour and understanding of harsh reality comes from growing up in a very tough neighborhood with 2 brothers and a mother that had a quicker wit than anyone I've ever met. We survived in 1 of 2 ways...you made your enemy laugh(or embarrassed, in some cases) or you beat them to within inches of their lives. Either way... :grin01:
 
Almase said:
I mean I've seriously considered skinning a mouse because I think a mouse pelt would look kinda cool and different hung up on my wall. But thats no reason to think a guy is sadistic is it? I mean its just a hobby like hangin up deer skin. :)
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The Herp store I visit actually has a display of taxidermied mice (OK, I'm sure that's not an adjective) hanging over the register, complete with little teeny halos and wings. There's a taxidermy class you can take to learn how to get your own wittle moosie angels. My Kindergartner really wants me to take the course so that we can decorate the Christmas tree.

I don't think she's psycho. Just really into furry angels.

Find a taxidermist. Mount away. You won't hear me complain.

SaulsMom
 
lol....Well, thats good you grew up that way. I mean its kinda sad. But its good for a person to understand the "harsh realities". That reminds me of what this radio talk show host I listen to talked about once. About when he grew up in Brooklyn I think, he mentioned there would be bullies in the bathrooms sometimes that would pick on people, or actually take their money so he said he used to go in there with some kind of joke and talk to the bully while he was going to the bathroom. lol Kinda funny. Can I ask your age?
 
lol Saulsmom, thats funny. I would need one of those exacto knives for a mouse. haha. Oh, I didnt see that. I was thinking you were older.
 
Almase said:
Can cornsakes eat dwarf hamsters? I dont wanna sound cruel, but I have a couple dwarves that I have had for awhile. I think its time they moved on. If the corn cant eat them I'll just get rid of them some other way.
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Coooooooooooooold Blooded


But that's mad dog
 
Almase said:
lol....I can say some stuff about PETA too. Like I said, I hunt coons lol so PETA and us hunters dont exactly get along either.

Thats an idea to freeze them. However I heard before that freezing doesnt really kill the bacteria, it just stops it from growing more. Im not a scientist, so I do not know personally. Its better safe than sorry however.

Yes Skychimp, some kid would take them. But I dont know any kids and im not attached to the hamsters at all lol. Again, I dont wanna sound cruel to any of you. But when it comes to animals, they have a price limit. For example, I dont wanna waste gas money to bring a hamster to a petshop when I can feed it to my snake. If my cat gets sick then it better heal itself or its gonna die, cause I wont spend money on a free animal. The snake however cost about $80ish, so if something happens it gets a trip to the vet. But I would say anything under about $20 doesnt get any special treatment.
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I find this disturbing. Before anyone labels me a PETA supporter or an HSUS supporter, be assured that I am not. I loathe Ingrid Newkirk and hopes she gets what coming to her.
But I am a firm believer in RESPONSIBILITY. No matter the cost of an animal, it deserves basic care. Basic care includes vet care in case of illness or injury. In many towns, failure to provide basic care for an animal, free or not, constitutes animal cruelty. If found guilty penalties include fines and/or jail time. I DO agree with this. This person may end up paying more for a "free cat" than he ever imagined!
 
Wait wait wait. Before you even start in on me. Let me tell you I do take care of my animals. My cats are barn cats. They live on their own. The only thing I do is feed them. If they go out in the woods and get screwed up from a coyote or something, I aint takin the damn cat to a vet, if its gonna die I aint gonna pay for some medicine to put it to sleep, im gonna shoot the damn thing. But of course I dont REALLY own a cat anyways. I mean who owns a cat? They come and go as they please. As for the hamsters, I just CANNOT see paying $100 because it has a lump on its side or something. THat is stupid. Call it cruel if you want, I'll find out what the lump is but its not going to vet. If its fatal I'll kill it myself. It has nothing to do with cruelty, it has to do with people being raised to soft today. Besides that im not rich. I have horses and hounds and they come WAY before a hamster or a cat. So dont tell me I dont take care of my animals, or I am cruel without knowing me there buddy.
 
In my opinion...

Okay, before everyone says "aw its a little 14 year old that will cry if his little mouse dies" I assure you that 's not the kind of person I am, but I do have my opinions. And I agree that PETA is insane (in a bad way), and I am not anything like a supporter of them, especially after watching my ball python devour live mice (she wouldn't take frozen).

My ball python escaped quite a few years ago and (besides losing my parents 15 grand after scaring the buyer of our house who somehow learned the "python" escaped) we bought 2 live mice to attract her back. She never came so we kept the mice. We had them for a year or so and then one got a tumor on his neck. We brought it to a specialty vet because everything deserves to live and we were responsible for the little guy. The mouse was worth his weight in gold. We paid something like $300 for the vet to do surgery on the mouse. It was so small they used the cap for a needle as the tube to administer the anesthetic.

Anyway my point is that I think you should take care of any animal you have. I'm not saying that feeding your hamsters to your snakes is horrible. Your going to feed your snake something so I see no problem with feeding the hamsters. Oh, and I would take care of the cats, but you have your opinions and I see nothing wrong with that. And killing the rodent with a fatal disease is not bad either since they would probably be "put down" in anycase.
 
I gotta tell ya'...I tend to agree with Almase. While he may be a bit "abrasive" in the way he says it, his logic is sound. I have a bunch of mice. If any of them get sick, they are getting killed, bottom line. And I won't feel the least bit guilty about it. I'm not spending $100 on a sick MOUSE, when I can go to the store and buy 50 of them for that price. It simply doesn't make sense. The only thing that would suck about it would be telling my daughter, but even SHE, at 2 1/2, knows that things die. She gets it.

From his story, it is clear that the cats he refers to are not your typical house cat like the lady down the street owns. These are basically feral cats that only stick around because he hasn't chased them away. They use his barn for warmth and his generosity for food. That's not a pet. If I throw some peanuts out in my yard and attract a squirrel that decides he likes me enough to stick around, I am certainly not going to try and bring the thing to a vet should it get sick.

There is a difference between a "companion animal", a "working animal", a "pet", and stray that you feel sorry for. If I give a stray some food, it should consider itself lucky...I already spent too much on it...
 
No, I agree with the mouse stuff (and possibly on the cat stuff, I don't know). What I'm saying is that in my case my whole family had those animals as pets and we felt we had to take care of them. In general I would not pay much of anything to take care of a mouse that was not a pet.

As for the other stuff I'm not sure and that's your choice, so I don't want to get into an arguement.
 
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