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Dog Progression Thread

Nitelion94 said:
I was only thinking about it. If I did it would have been at least 5-7 years down the road. As of right now I do not plan on breeding them.
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Did you read where at least two people told you neutering helps prevent males from marking territory. Even after neutering if they have that marking idea they will continue.

Yes dogs teach responsiblity, but I believe your Mother was against it and as it goes part of the time it is the parents who take on the responsibility. All your good intentions aside you are not prepared or ready to have a dog, nor should you.
 
Uhhhhhh, I bred dogs for a long time and never once had a male pee in the house if properly trained. And Nitelion94, I wouldn't go so far as to say it is irresponsible to breed a mixed dog. But it is unwise. It is hard to charge for a mixed breed dog and for some reason it is even harder to give them away. (it is wierd how the world works that you can sell something, but offer the same item for free and no one wants it). And in giving them away it is even harder to be selective about getting good homes for your puppies. If we use the addage don't do it because there thousand of dogs euthenized every day in shelters it is really not a great arguement. And here is why....You can find just as many purebreds in shelter as mixed. There are thousands of other animals being destroyed because homes can't be found. ie big retic and burmese pythons are being set loose daily in some states (this is just an example). But just that alone doesn't constitute NOT breeding those for example.
The REAL reason is that you helped in creating those little life forms. You will be attached to them in the short time before they are able to be found homes. And do YOU want to be responsible for being unable to locate good homes...Or worse having them be destroyed because of an inability to find good homes. Also it should be first and foremost in any breeders mind of any animal, that if I can't find a good home for the animal am I willing and able to be that home for them.
8 or so puppies, 10 or 20 snakes is all the same in that it costs in food, vet, shelter and general upkeep. And where puppies are concerned local laws may prevent you from being that home.
Just some major things to consider before you go down a path that there is no turning back from. As a teenager I believe you can figure out on your own what is best and make a plan if someone is willing to answer your questions, provide insight and not judge your decisions.
A couple of other things just came to mind about not spaying or nuetering dogs is that the risk of shortening the dogs life due various related cancers goes up by about 45%.
Just another tidbit to consider in your plans.
BTW if this message seems like it is leaning towards the not breeding it is because there is a lot more to consider.
 
susang said:
Did you read where at least two people told you neutering helps prevent males from marking territory. Even after neutering if they have that marking idea they will continue.

Yes dogs teach responsiblity, but I believe your Mother was against it and as it goes part of the time it is the parents who take on the responsibility. All your good intentions aside you are not prepared or ready to have a dog, nor should you.
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I said I was not breeding so yes I plan on neutering them. She did not want me to get a dog because she knew about these.
 
susang said:
Yes dogs teach responsiblity, but I believe your Mother was against it and as it goes part of the time it is the parents who take on the responsibility. All your good intentions aside you are not prepared or ready to have a dog, nor should you.
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Not to pick on Susang, but for all the others who have told Nitelion he's too irresponsible to have a dog, I think everyone needs to take a step back. He is a teenager, and presumably his parents are in control here. It's not up to us to tell him he shouldn't have a dog, or that he shouldn't breed them. The decision to get a dog was obviously his parents'. And the decision whether to neuter/spay them will be with the parents also. Nitelion is just expressing opinions here. He's handled these opinions well, so we should all give him a break.
 
Nitelion, congrats on your dogs. Its nice to be excited about getting a dog, I know, I just got one myself. I'm happy you're sharing that enthusiasm with others. A lot of people are offering you some good advice here, though some are being condescending, but you are handling the critiques well, at least here on the forum.

I'd like to add to what some members here have been saying- why two dogs? Isn't one enough to start with?
 
Kronos said:
Not to pick on Susang, but for all the others who have told Nitelion he's too irresponsible to have a dog, I think everyone needs to take a step back. He is a teenager, and presumably his parents are in control here. It's not up to us to tell him he shouldn't have a dog, or that he shouldn't breed them. The decision to get a dog was obviously his parents'. And the decision whether to neuter/spay them will be with the parents also. Nitelion is just expressing opinions here. He's handled these opinions well, so we should all give him a break.
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Oh thank you so much I appreciate the sentiment.
 
martin-bernstein said:
Nitelion, congrats on your dogs. Its nice to be excited about getting a dog, I know, I just got one myself. I'm happy you're sharing that enthusiasm with others. A lot of people are offering you some good advice here, though some are being condescending, but you are handling the critiques well, at least here on the forum.

I'd like to add to what some members here have been saying- why two dogs? Isn't one enough to start with?
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2 reasons really. The first is they were sudden and unexpected so I did not get to pick how many lol and I was so happy to get them no way was I going to give one back. and the other is I plan on rabbit hunting them in the future so I wanted two for that.
 
Well, just so you know you dont need more then one dog for rabbit hunting, but it does help. I have rabbit hunted many years without the use of a dog, just me and my .22lr.

And for those who say he is to irresponsible because of his age, not every one matures at the same age. Also You have to give a kid some responsibility before he can learn to be responsible. If you never give it to them how are they suppose to handle it when they have it dropped on them. That said, the parents should also be the ones who make the final decision on if he gets the dog or not. I see so many kids who post stuff on you tube like "I would just tell my mom to deal with it" and it drives me nuts because so many of them dont understand that usually the parent has a darn good reason for telling them yes or no. Kids now days are so disrespectfully. So what ever your parents decide nite, no matter how much you disagree with them they problubly have a really good reason for there response..... When you do get the dogs back be ready for some work :D because training a dog can sometimes be a handful. Have fun! :D
 
I apologize to you Nitelion94 if it seemed like I was critizing you. I was not in fact trying to do that at all. I just giving information for you to consider. I was a teenager when I got my first dog. And the fact that you want to train them to hunt rabbits is comendable. That was the reason for my first dog(hunting that is). And it taught me a great deal. It was also one of the best experiences for me. If anyone does not understand what being teenager and having your own hunting dog can be like, they should watch the movie "Where the Red Fern Grows".
I wish you the best of luck in your new endevour. And may you make the best choices for you and your animals.
 
But it does show what it can be like for a young man to bond with his dogs...Plus it one great family movie for all to enjoy. There are of course many others. Old Yeller, I can't think of the name, but it is about a boy and a beagle..anywho you get the idea.
 
smallet said:
I apologize to you Nitelion94 if it seemed like I was critizing you. I was not in fact trying to do that at all. I just giving information for you to consider. I was a teenager when I got my first dog. And the fact that you want to train them to hunt rabbits is comendable. That was the reason for my first dog(hunting that is). And it taught me a great deal. It was also one of the best experiences for me. If anyone does not understand what being teenager and having your own hunting dog can be like, they should watch the movie "Where the Red Fern Grows".
I wish you the best of luck in your new endevour. And may you make the best choices for you and your animals.
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Thank you and there is no need to apologize.
 
I'd say these little dogs will have a happy life with you as their owner, which you've shown by sending them back to their mum for the best of reasons, until they are ready to begin their new life with you. I look forwards to seeing them grow up with you!
 
I LOVED where the red fern grows (The book).

I've never watched the movie, but the book was great. I read it when I was a lot younger and growing up. I cried at the end, like most dog books/movies. :3

Also your doggies are cute, and I think it's great you brought them back.
I got my dog at 10 weeks old, and she never once had a biting problem which is amazing since she's a German Shepherd.
I also don't recommend breeding them because it costs a lot of money, and if you do it properly you won't make money so if that is why you're doing, well don't. - 'specially with a mix breed dog.
 
there nippy right now so I hope that sending them back helps with that. I talked to him today when I have them back and I am having him keep them for about a month or so. Just till it gets warm so I can take them for walks and not worry about freezing them to death! lol. I loved Where the red fern grows and Old Yeller.
 
Nitelion94 said:
there nippy right now so I hope that sending them back helps with that. I talked to him today when I have them back and I am having him keep them for about a month or so. Just till it gets warm so I can take them for walks and not worry about freezing them to death! lol. I loved Where the red fern grows and Old Yeller.
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Whoops I meant gave them back lol
 
Awe look at those cute little faces. Congrats!

As for teenagers being to inmmature, I do not agree. I grew up on a farm and had a lot of animals that I was responsible for, as well as other things. On a farm everyone has responsiblilties. I can remember milking cows when I was so young that my feet didn't touch the floor while sitting on the stool.
 
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