hi all just an update out off 16 good eggs i now have 10 beautifull babies, would have been more but some one at the shop where they were incubated had stupidly left lid off over night but i have still got 10 they were born of august and some are now on the second feed,,,,,only had to assist 2 in feeding ,,,i dont think that is bad....she self retained aswell and last week pushed out another 18 egg all dead mind and i dont think she has retained any. only new cos i fed her and 10 mins later there were this huge batch of eggs. note to dan dont handle too much offer smaller and often meals this will help push out when she feels she needs to poo x x