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general morph question

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Jokerswild112

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My snake laid eggs recently the babies are from a miami mother and grey phase father. I have always wanted a stripe pattern corn is this even possible with this pairing? And just out of curiosity anyone have an idea of what the hatchlings will look like?
 
Not certain what you mean by "grey phase" but likely you mean some sort of Anery? IF both of them are het stripe, which is highly unlikely but not impossible, you may hatch a striped baby. Otherwise, you will probably have a nice clutch of classics. Do you have any idea of either of their parentage and if either of them might be het for anything?
 
Your corn snakes will not have any babies with the striped pattern unless they are both Hetero for the striped gene. Check out this site to learn a bit about corn snake genetics. http://corncalc.com/
For how your snakes will look? I am confused with what a "grey Phase" corn snake is for sure. Some pics would help. Since miami is not a recessive trait but rather a line breed look, your snakes will brobably look miami-ish with influeces that make them look a bit like dad.
 
This is my first snake so I have no idea about the genetics I was told it was a male but 2 months after I got her out pops 20 eggs lol so I didn't get to like choose a morph to breed her with. She was kept in a tank with another adult black albino corn but it sold 2 days before I got mine so I never got a look at the father.
 
The hatchlings are likely to look like standard Normals with an ordinary pattern.
 
I figured this much but for the future anyone know a good morph to breed my Miami with to get some more interesting morphs? I was thinking of breeding her with a ghost but like I said I don't know genetics.
 
You won't get any 'interesting' morphs with your miami, most likely. Miamis are line bred *normals*. It's all selective breeding, not simple-recessive genetics the way things such as anery, amel, or motley are.

So unless you pair her with another miami (to get all miami-ish offspring), you'll only end up with normals that will range from pale to typical.
 
For the most part Shiari is correct. Most miami corns are bred for that look and not crossed with a ton of genetics. However, don't assume she doesn't have any either. I have seen a ton of "miami corns" that are labeled miami but are not in a "miami line". They often label them like that to get more money.
If your looking to find out what she "might" have genetically, I would start with a male known to have the basic morphs like amel, anery, ect.(Like a snow, or a normal with lots of hets) Then you'll know for sure.
 
Yeah to be honest I was told it was a Miami but today I found out there's a silver phase corn that looks alot like a miami and the more I look the more I think she's a silver phase but I don't know she's about to shed so when she sheds ill post some pictures so you can tell me what you think
 
Oh well I saw the picture in the book barrens corn snake guide and under the picture it said silver phase so im just going on that. It looks like a miami but has orange patterns running it's whole body near the belly and the base color is more of a dull silver then a rich gray color
 
Jokerswild112 said:
Oh well I saw the picture in the book barrens corn snake guide and under the picture it said silver phase so im just going on that. It looks like a miami but has orange patterns running it's whole body near the belly and the base color is more of a dull silver then a rich gray color
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That "sounds" like the book was describing an upper Keys "rosy ratsnake", formerly (Elaphe g. rosacea). They used to be thought of as a separate cornsnake subspecies, but have since been classified as very noteworthy variants from their southernmost range in the Florida Keys. I used to work with these myself many years ago and had some awesome examples. Some, depending on where they originate can be VERY silver looking with orange/red blotching, and others from further south can be substantially muted in their side blotching, head chevroning, belly checkering, and be an overall light "rosy" orange with little contrast.



~Doug
 
Most corn snake traits are recessive. Which means in order to breed a snake to come out a certain morph both parents must posses that trait either visually (as in looks like that morph)known as homozygous or hidden known as heterozygous. So if your miami corn was bred by an anery. Then the resulting offspring will normal looking, but be heterozygous for anery. As they would posses the anery trait but you wouldn't see it.
 
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