tyflier said:
This was posted on page 2:
But this one from page 8 makes a more clear distinction;
The distinction between correct and incorrect replies needs to be made in both of these quotes, IMO, and I think that is what Plissken is referring to.
Just because someone only has 1 snake and less than 5 years experience inhandling and owning snakes, doesn't meant that that person hasn't done their research, and certainly doesn't mean that they cannot contribute with valid, valuable and accurate posts.
In the first quote, it is "frowned upon" for someone to get an answer to a question, and than regurgitate that same answer to the same question for a different person. And I ask "Why?" If the answer given is accurate, what difference does it make where it came from? Alot of the long-time members are sick of answering the same questions over and over. So what is wrong with a newbie answering the question, as long as the answer is accurate?
In the second quote, the very subtle distinction of WRONG information is made, and I think that distinction would have been appreciated in the first quote, and better off being less subtle in the second.
The problem ishouldn't be with whom provides the information. It *should* be with how accurate that information is. And if someone DOES provide inaccurate advice, or simply wrong advice, they SHOULD be corrected. And the person doing the correcting should not have to worry about being attacked for it.
Just my $.02...again... :crazy02:
I see. Well, I've been here for a little bit, and I think what actually may be at issue is the tone of the newbie posters in the types of post you cite, but you bring up a good point also, that misinformation when spouted as gospel is not well-recieved. Nor, should it be. Some newbies need to learn the meaning of the caveat. As in, "I am pretty new and don't have experience with this myself, but the general opinion is . . . " or "I am new and don't have a lot of experience yet. But in MY experience . . . " This sort of thing can go a long way (I would daresay ALL the way) in ameliorating the problems that people have with newbie misinformation AND with some not-well-recieved newbie tone. I am willing to assure you that no "oldie" or "great" would take issue with a newbie regurgitating correct information, and I don't really think that that is what is being implied in this thread by any "oldie" at any turn.
But yeah, Plissken. I'm not likely to reply to "what do I get if I cross x with y" because I identify it as a newbie thread, and I don't think Mendelian genetics is all that inscrutable if you put a little time into it. Now, if the post is labeled, "Wait. I still don't quite get it. Now WHAT do I get if I cross X wtih Y???," I will respond. The implication in the title is that the second newbie has tried already, and has hit a wall. I don't think it's that people won't or don't respond to petowner threads. I think some people don't feel like wasting their time on something that the thread initiator could find on his or her own if he or she would bother to put IN a little time.
And I don't remember the post, but no, I don't think the only thing that matters is that we all love our snakes. I'm sure that the crazy cat lady down the street loves her cats, but I don't want to talk to her about how oh-my-god-her-cat-is-staring-at-the-wall-is-something-wrong on a Saturday morning. Just don't feel like having that conversation. Not saying she's a bad person, just saying I don't want to have those conversations with her about her cats. I, myself, think one of the most interesting things about cats and my relationship to cats is how anatomy cats who are fully dissected still look amazingly cute because for some reason, when anatomy cats are dissected, the dissectors (i.e., my wife and her colleagues) leave the skin on the feet and the head. So you walk in and there they are, all ready to be learned from, and they are just so darned cute you have to touch their noses, even though you are not in the anatomy lab. But you know, not everyone wants to have that conversation with me. And that's ok, too. You can "love" things in very different ways, and not everyone sees eye to eye on that and wants to have the same conversations.
