Going price for an 07 Banded Amel?

[patm1313]

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I wasn't aware that males were ready to breed at 100 grams. I was thinking at least 200g, no wonder the boys always seem to look so small next to the males.

I figure I'm just gonna hold out now after all the advice from you fine folks. Probally just get one from Don

Boys & males.... Homosexual snakes? Eek!

 

[patm1313]

First, being crazy is my thing. You can not steal my style. :blowhead:

Second, judging from the breeder's reply, he/she looks like he doesn't know much.

Lastly, if he's an 07 then you aren't going to be able to get him up to breeding size in a year. Just another example of the breeder's intelligence. Remember 3-3-3? 3 years old, 300 grams and 3 feet long? I don't think the corn will be any of those in a year.

Scratch the part about 3-3-3, it took some looking into to realize that the snake was a he. I call everything and anything a "dude", boy or girl.

 

[Joejr14]

First, being crazy is my thing. You can not steal my style. :blowhead:

Second, judging from the breeder's reply, he/she looks like he doesn't know much.

Lastly, if he's an 07 then you aren't going to be able to get him up to breeding size in a year. Just another example of the breeder's intelligence. Remember 3-3-3? 3 years old, 300 grams and 3 feet long? I don't think the corn will be any of those in a year.

Or perhaps you could breed a few snakes before spouting off about this 3-3-3 rule, which does not exist. It's a basic guideline for new breeders, but it has it's downfalls. I've had many snakes that are way older than 3 years old be nowhere near 300 grams and produce perfect clutches every time.

Males have no part of the 3-3-3 'rule' that you speak of. I've had males breed at 150 grams. A 20 gram hatchling in April will be 150 grams if fed appropriately and will be big enough to breed in 2009.

As for the amel, I wouldn't spend more than $15 on it.

 

[Corny Noob]

Thanks Joe
I've already decided to just wait for something worthwhile from a worthwhile breeder. As opposed to someone who tries to tell me that line bred looks are inheritable.

And I made an error in my previous post I meant to comment on how the boys always look so much smaller than the females. Freudian slip, it happens.

 

[TandJ]

Second, judging from the breeder's reply, he/she looks like he doesn't know much.

*LOL* Sounds like the pot is screaming again..

Buy what you wanna buy, and pay what your willing to pay.. If you don't like what the breeder is selling the animal for, don't get off talking crap about them eithier.. The OP knew as much as the breeder did.. :shrugs:

Regards.. Tim of T and J

 

[Tula_Montage]

Listen Jenn, an animal is only worth what someone is willing to pay. Me, I would pay the $70 asked because I think it's a rather pretty snake and £35 is a lower average price in the UK for an animal like that.

I paid $600 + $40 delivery for a hypo petwer a year ago, far too expensive but she was the only one available in the country and I WANTED her. Oh and I bought her unseen... not even a picture.

 

[starsevol]

Or perhaps you could breed a few snakes before spouting off about this 3-3-3 rule, which does not exist. It's a basic guideline for new breeders, but it has it's downfalls. I've had many snakes that are way older than 3 years old be nowhere near 300 grams and produce perfect clutches every time.

Males have no part of the 3-3-3 'rule' that you speak of. I've had males breed at 150 grams. A 20 gram hatchling in April will be 150 grams if fed appropriately and will be big enough to breed in 2009.

As for the amel, I wouldn't spend more than $15 on it.

I just HOPE my little 30 gram sulphur male is ready to breed next year! His girlfriend-to-be is monsterous, Dean's caramel motley Carmen (I'm pretty sure she's over 700 grams). She'll crush my little man like a bug!

And Jen, the snake itself is pretty and might be worth the asking price....but what the breeder is saying about its genetics just doesnt sit well with me. If you want the snake, get him...but I think you can do better than that

 

[patm1313]

Or perhaps you could breed a few snakes before spouting off about this 3-3-3 rule, which does not exist. It's a basic guideline for new breeders, but it has it's downfalls. I've had many snakes that are way older than 3 years old be nowhere near 300 grams and produce perfect clutches every time.

Males have no part of the 3-3-3 'rule' that you speak of. I've had males breed at 150 grams. A 20 gram hatchling in April will be 150 grams if fed appropriately and will be big enough to breed in 2009.

As for the amel, I wouldn't spend more than $15 on it.

Did you read my next post? After looking back at the OP, and seeing the use of the word "dude" I realized the snake was a male. I realize that the 3-3-3 guideline does not apply to males.

 

[patm1313]

*LOL* Sounds like the pot is screaming again..

Buy what you wanna buy, and pay what your willing to pay.. If you don't like what the breeder is selling the animal for, don't get off talking crap about them eithier.. The OP knew as much as the breeder did.. :shrugs:

Regards.. Tim of T and J

Just what I noticed. Really, I don't know the breeder, and I'm not buying his/her snake, so I'm not going to say bad things about them.

 

[patm1313]

Just what I noticed. Really, I don't know the breeder, and I'm not buying his/her snake, so I'm not going to say bad things about them.

And just to support my point, Below is the quote from the breeder:

i bred him, i have both his parents he is not fully banded to the belly but both his parents are and he has the genetics to produce fully banded cornsnakes with almost pure white ground color, he is eating large pinkies, i don't know the weight of him but if you up his feeding he should be able to breed next year

Aside from the obvious massive run-on sentence, the grammer and the capitalization, and puncuation, his info is a little shady.

He talks about the snake having "the genetics to produce fully banded cornsnakes with almost pure white ground color", That's odd, because he can't really predict that. There's no way of telling thats snake's genetics. To show this, using the own breeder's words, "he is not fully banded to the belly but both his parents are" shows that even if both of the parents are fully banded, the offspring can differ.

Also, the fact that he hasn't weighed the snake sounds odd. I got a scale just for my corn, for about $10 at Wally World (where all good things come from). I don't even a good reason for weighing him. I would defenitley use one if I bred...

I'm not trying to get everbody angry at me, I'm just saying what I see.

 

[Corny Noob]

Eep don't want to start any rabblerousing here with this topic.
I just wanted all your oh so lovely opinions as to whether or not it qualified as the particular morph. I do think the snake is *very* lovely looking since it's got an "abberant" I suppose we'll call it pattern. But if I want a true amel banded I know that Don Soderberg wouldn't steer me wrong I do feel slightly uncomfortable with the fact that the breeder is trying to pass of certain things about the snake's genetics that aren't what they seem though :shrugs:
However I sent the link about this snake to my fiance' and he had me check his email for him today and he hasn't deleted the link yet, so maybe he's going to buy him for me, that would be sweet.

 

[patm1313]

Eep don't want to start any rabblerousing here with this topic.
I just wanted all your oh so lovely opinions as to whether or not it qualified as the particular morph. I do think the snake is *very* lovely looking since it's got an "abberant" I suppose we'll call it pattern. But if I want a true amel banded I know that Don Soderberg wouldn't steer me wrong I do feel slightly uncomfortable with the fact that the breeder is trying to pass of certain things about the snake's genetics that aren't what they seem though :shrugs:
However I sent the link about this snake to my fiance' and he had me check his email for him today and he hasn't deleted the link yet, so maybe he's going to buy him for me, that would be sweet.

Sorry, most of the rabblerousing here is because of me.

I think it comes down to whether you are going to breed the snake or not. IMHO, I would buy that snake as a pet in a heartbeat if I saw it somewhere.

Hopefully I'll find a wife someday that will buy me snakes... :dancer: