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green blotched snow

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B.J.S

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what is a greenblotched?
it is a snow but is there a specific gene in green blotched or is it just line breeding of very yellow snows?

boyd
 
As far as I know it is neither. I know that there is no one known gene for 'green blotch',, and I believe that green blotched snows simply appeared from a crossing between snows. Line breeding was not used to perposely create the snakes. It was dumb luck, really, that they, or yellow blotched snows, appeared. The snakes crossed held the right genes (many, unknown genes) and a green blotched snow was produced. I'm not sure if green blotched snows breed true either, that is, if 2 green blotched snows are crossed the resulting hatchlings are not guaranteed to be green blotched snows themselves.

It's an interesting occurrence, and I do believe it originated from yellow blotched snows, but not much is known about it, like many traits controlled by many genes, as far as i know.
 
anyone else has a opinion about the GBS(greeblotchedsnow)?
i am thinking buying 1.1 at snakeday in houten.
 
I would have to agree with the others that it's a surprise that pips out for you, but I believe it could be line bred if anyone tried. There are also some amels with green blotching that might have originated from the snows, or the more likely case, visa-versa.
 
Hey Boyd, heres' an idea buy the 1.1 GBS and start a project to test trueness of gene and ability to produce GBS offspring.

Ciao
 
Corn_Oasis said:
The skin cells responsible for green color in reptiles are called iridophores. Iridophores reflect blue light. When this blue light passes through the yellow xanthphore cells it looks like the reptile is green. Green blotched corns simply have a higher concentration of iridophores compared to the norm. For a little clearer explaination check out this link...http://www.petplace.com/reptiles/why-are-frogs-green/page1.aspx
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BTW, understanding the iridophores and their relationship with other pigment cells is the KEY to producing some really wild colors in corn snakes. If you know what color morphs REALLY are and how to combine them you might be amazed at what can be produced. In the next 4 to 6 years you will see true green, true blue and true purple corns. How do I know this?? Lets just say a little bird told me. :)
 
Yes, I remeber learning about those. At one point I thought it would be an interesting project to try and breed for exessive iridophores in anery snakes, as some anerys have a large number on their head that create the blue sheen sometimes seen. That project probably won't be started by me, but that little bird, or who ever told the little bird, LOL, appearantly is doing something similar.

Very interesting.
 
Sign me up!

Corn_Oasis said:
In the next 4 to 6 years you will see true green corns. How do I know this?? Lets just say a little bird told me. :)
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Will your little bird take a deposit?
 
I have heard of the "green" morph, but I have only seen one picture that was even remotely the faintest lime green in some spots, and I was half wondering if the picture was slightly photo shopped.
Also, I have seen "green" snows online for big bucks... but no pictures. hummm
:)
 
Allison said:
I have heard of the "green" morph, but I have only seen one picture that was even remotely the faintest lime green in some spots, and I was half wondering if the picture was slightly photo shopped.
Also, I have seen "green" snows online for big bucks... but no pictures. hummm
:)
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They are out there, two of the normal snows we purchased have 'green' borders around their saddles. Even our motley snow is starting to develop the green around her dots. Let me see if I can dig up a few pictures of them... and I'll post them here.

Jenn
 
Ok, here we go, I found two decent pics where you can see the green fairly well on our male het stripe and on the female motley. It isn't a very dark green, but it is green - and like the pinks in the motley, very hard to see in photos sometimes.

Male:
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Female:
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The only photo manipulation of both pictures involved cropping and resizing.


Jenn
 
i heard a story, of somebody who had bred a greenblotched and a butter
and then he bred some of the greenblotchedXbutter but not even one green blotched came out
so it looks like its linebreeding :shrugs:
 
It is a selectively bred trait, as was stated early. The iridiphores are responsible for that lovely lime color, but it isn't known how to single that particular gene out much less breed specifically for it. How it came about is pretty similar to the candycane, sunglow, etc. Find the hatchling with the most desireable traits and try to breed particularly for that gene (or look) generation after generation. Sometimes you get it, sometimes you don't. I'm not surprised that a butter to a green blotched didn't produce green blotched... all it would produce is amels :)
 
Jynx said:
It is a selectively bred trait, as was stated early. The iridiphores are responsible for that lovely lime color, but it isn't known how to single that particular gene out much less breed specifically for it. How it came about is pretty similar to the candycane, sunglow, etc. Find the hatchling with the most desireable traits and try to breed particularly for that gene (or look) generation after generation. Sometimes you get it, sometimes you don't. I'm not surprised that a butter to a green blotched didn't produce green blotched... all it would produce is amels :)
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he bred the amels that came out the butter x greenblotched together and then some snows came out but none was a greenblotched, that was what i ment
 
I'm really bad with all the morphs and stuff like that, but I have seen some pictures of green-blotched snows. It would be interesting to start a project out of it and even more interesting if it is a color that can be line bred. :) Good luck with it!

Now as for blue corns, sign me up for one of those!
 
There was recently a post in the Photo Gallery posted by some one who has been working on green-blotched snows for a few generations now, and the picftures are pretty cool! I don't remember the name of the poster or the post, but do a search on gree-vlotched snows in the photo gallery and it should come right up.
 
zeeboismysnake said:
Now as for blue corns, sign me up for one of those!
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If you removed all the yellow from a green blotched snow you would have a blue blotched snow.

Now how would someone do that? :crazy02:
 
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