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galaxip
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Thanks to all for all the input!
The red on the head looks just exactly the shade of dark copper under bright light, very metallic. Otherwise that color is a very reddish rusty brown elsewhere.
I have a hard time telling for sure due to size, but her irises look very-light-brown or gold, with a definitely black pupil. The eyes are definitely NOT red.
This was sold to me as an Okeetee, but I don't see how it could be, unless the pattern will change as well as coloration.
Colorwise, I'd suspect it of missing all black, and possesssing browns, reds, and yellows.
And I wonder if a frost gene isn't in there.
But a normal pattern, not a motley? That helps a bit.
I only started looking at online pics of morphs available last week, so I obviously don't much know what I'm talking about, yet.
I have seen normals at a local pet store... They don't have the whites in them like this. But maybe I just don't want to beleive this is 'merely' a normal, because it is so beautiful to me. I'm simply in awe of this animal. And I need to hunt up more pics.
Sorry for my longwindednesss.
The red on the head looks just exactly the shade of dark copper under bright light, very metallic. Otherwise that color is a very reddish rusty brown elsewhere.
I have a hard time telling for sure due to size, but her irises look very-light-brown or gold, with a definitely black pupil. The eyes are definitely NOT red.
This was sold to me as an Okeetee, but I don't see how it could be, unless the pattern will change as well as coloration.
Colorwise, I'd suspect it of missing all black, and possesssing browns, reds, and yellows.
And I wonder if a frost gene isn't in there.
But a normal pattern, not a motley? That helps a bit.
I only started looking at online pics of morphs available last week, so I obviously don't much know what I'm talking about, yet.
I have seen normals at a local pet store... They don't have the whites in them like this. But maybe I just don't want to beleive this is 'merely' a normal, because it is so beautiful to me. I'm simply in awe of this animal. And I need to hunt up more pics.
Sorry for my longwindednesss.
galaxip
New member
I've found a pic that looks just like mine...
http://www.cornsnake.net/photogalle...lanistic (hypo.)&Speed=Modem&res=&wOpt=InLine
Mine looks like the fourth pic.
http://www.cornsnake.net/photogalle...lanistic (hypo.)&Speed=Modem&res=&wOpt=InLine
Mine looks like the fourth pic.
CornCrazy
What's one more???
There's nothing wrong with having a "plain old normal." I mean, you bought it because you liked it. It shouldn't change your opinion of it if it is just a normal.
Anyway, it's possible that it could be a hypo, but you won't know unless you do some breeding trials. I have produced some normal hatchlings that were very light and hardly had any black on them...but they were NOT hypos.
What does your snake's belly look like? Does it look like a checkerboard? You mentioned motley...that's why I am asking. Your snake does not have a motley dorsal pattern, but it still could be a motley.
Anyway, it's possible that it could be a hypo, but you won't know unless you do some breeding trials. I have produced some normal hatchlings that were very light and hardly had any black on them...but they were NOT hypos.
What does your snake's belly look like? Does it look like a checkerboard? You mentioned motley...that's why I am asking. Your snake does not have a motley dorsal pattern, but it still could be a motley.
galaxip
New member
Norm is our friend
Couldn't agree more... I think this is the BEST looking snake of any kind I've ever seen, bar none. If this is a normal, then it's normals I always want to have, frankly!!
Yes the belly looks sort of like a checkerboard... Or like Tetris blocks, more aptly.
CornCrazy said:
Couldn't agree more... I think this is the BEST looking snake of any kind I've ever seen, bar none. If this is a normal, then it's normals I always want to have, frankly!!
Yes the belly looks sort of like a checkerboard... Or like Tetris blocks, more aptly.
galaxip
New member
Conclusions
Thanks for your help, everyone!
After doing more online research, and taking the cue from the responses here... This is what I have concluded:
My snake is a normal-patterned, POSSIBLY hypomelanistic specimin. It is hard to tell for sure (especially as the animal is young, and colors may change a bit as it matures).
Either way, whether phenotype is standard normal or hypomel normal, I love this snake. I think it is the finest looking animal I've ever seen.
Thanks for your help, everyone!
After doing more online research, and taking the cue from the responses here... This is what I have concluded:
My snake is a normal-patterned, POSSIBLY hypomelanistic specimin. It is hard to tell for sure (especially as the animal is young, and colors may change a bit as it matures).
Either way, whether phenotype is standard normal or hypomel normal, I love this snake. I think it is the finest looking animal I've ever seen.
Taceas
USW = UB313
I dunno, to me it looks like a hypo. I've never seen a normal normal with so much absence of black to the dorsal saddles. Doesn't mean there aren't any out there, but I've just never seen any.
Normals rank right up there with all of the other morphs of corns for my favorite. There is so much variability and vibrance that came come from a normal, you just can't get that with some of the other morphs.
Valkyrie, my 03 normale female:
Normals rank right up there with all of the other morphs of corns for my favorite. There is so much variability and vibrance that came come from a normal, you just can't get that with some of the other morphs.
Valkyrie, my 03 normale female:
Susan
Go Ahead, Make My Day!
Taceas - You said you have never seen a "normal" normal with very little black in the dorsal pattern. Check this guy out. He's one that I produced from snakes with no known hypo genes of any kind. His siblings have varying amounts of black in their dorsal pattern, but he has almost none. His belly checks are jet black and numerous.
galaxip
New member
Red background
See, that's the funny thing... It's why I've been confused.
My 'Hypos', if that is what they are ( and I think it must be ) don't have the orange-red background color... The background color is pretty much bone white.
Overall, both look pretty much like Taceas' pic above... But mine have no black I can see at all. Even the ventral checks are rose-colored, not black. I just love looking at them. Very cool.
See, that's the funny thing... It's why I've been confused.
My 'Hypos', if that is what they are ( and I think it must be ) don't have the orange-red background color... The background color is pretty much bone white.
Overall, both look pretty much like Taceas' pic above... But mine have no black I can see at all. Even the ventral checks are rose-colored, not black. I just love looking at them. Very cool.
galaxip
New member
Re: belly pic
Lessee... Some of these look pretty black/gray, but in person under good light, the checks are all rose-colored. The only exception is one snake has a dark gray check (just one) under the neck, and all the rest are rose-colored.
One site I went to today calls this kind of morph a "Crimson", says they are hypomelanistic... I'm going to keep looking to see if this is a common name/phenotype... I want to see if there is any consistency among breeders in labeling it "Crimson" (ie, do other "Crimson"s look like this phenotyope or not).
stephen said:
Lessee... Some of these look pretty black/gray, but in person under good light, the checks are all rose-colored. The only exception is one snake has a dark gray check (just one) under the neck, and all the rest are rose-colored.
One site I went to today calls this kind of morph a "Crimson", says they are hypomelanistic... I'm going to keep looking to see if this is a common name/phenotype... I want to see if there is any consistency among breeders in labeling it "Crimson" (ie, do other "Crimson"s look like this phenotyope or not).
