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Idiot on YouTube
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tyflier
[Insert Witty Commentary]
[sarcasm]I know!! People that promote themselves using more than a single snake in either a video or a photograph MUST be absolute morons!! I mean, nobody with any clue about proper snake husbandry would ever do such a thing.[/sarcasm]
Would they?
Now you peruse that page, and you look at the multiple photographs taken of people holding multiple species of snakes, and you tell me how much better you are then the folks that own those folks. Come on...tell me how much smarter and more knowledgeable about snakes you are...
I apologize in advance to Bill and Kathy love for using their website as an example, but the arrogance in this thread is just ridiculous.
Would they?
Now you peruse that page, and you look at the multiple photographs taken of people holding multiple species of snakes, and you tell me how much better you are then the folks that own those folks. Come on...tell me how much smarter and more knowledgeable about snakes you are...
I apologize in advance to Bill and Kathy love for using their website as an example, but the arrogance in this thread is just ridiculous.
SnakeAround
Formerly Blutengel
I think there is a little difference in putting some corns on a girl calmly and take some pictures and hanging different species around you, move around and drop yourself to the floor whilst they are hanging there. I think the corns used for the photo on the Love's site have gotten a little more respect then the ones used for the youtube video. Of course the snakes won't necessarily be traumatized in either case but it's the disrespect for the snakes in the youtube video that bugged me (though many of the guy's other video's are hilarious, hehe)
And the ones with all the ball pythons screams Photoshop to me.
And the ones with all the ball pythons screams Photoshop to me.
Hypancistrus
New member
You're missing out! I could watch skateboarders fall down on YouTube all day.
Chris, you flat out said you didn't watch the original video, so perhaps you should before you comment. This one was actually pretty bad.
Not only was that particular moron cohabbing MULTIPLE species of snakes in the same tiny, tiny vivs, but he was throwing food randomly in those vivs while all snakes were inside. One BP was swallowing a rat with several others watching. That is an accident waiting to happen if two snakes both grab the same rodent.
Not to mention, is it just me or does he have kitty litter on the bottom of the boa cage??? (Wasn't sure, but that is what it looks like to me)
Allalaskan
The Crazy Alaskan
I cant tell if its Cat litter or not, could be course sand/small gravel. Hard to tell though.
Hypancistrus
New member
Yeah, that was my second thought. Cat litter would be AWFUL to use. That stuff has a tendency to clump when wet, even if it's just plain ordinary non-clumping style litter. Any of that ingested during feeding could pose a serious risk to those snakes.
Gravel would be pretty bad too, but more easily passed than cat litter I suppose.
dan803
Born this way
Putting your sarcasm in brackets, as if we are too stupid to get it, is arrogant. It's not like you've been super-subtle about it. I ignored your first comment because you said you didn't even bother watching the video and then passed judgment onto everybody in the thread.
And who's holding multiple species on that page? The photoshopped ball python one doesn't count.
And who's holding multiple species on that page? The photoshopped ball python one doesn't count.
CentricMalteser
New member
The website you showed is VERY VERY different to the videos, as I have watched several of these guys
and to be fair, anyone with some knowledge of corns or snakes in general would know that the tanks they ahve used are far to small especially for that amount of snakes regardless of species!
As it also happens I do know a lot about corn snakes, and I would say I am smart and knowledgeable.
It sounds like you are sticking up for a sadistic and cruel person who thinks it is funny (as u can hear him laugh) to do such terrible acts!
and in regards to ur sarcasm about proper husbandry
i could intepret that as you would do such a thing,
of housing different species together in small environments,
so i ask you your question "tell me how much smarter and more knowledgeable about snakes you are..."
in other words, since you feel we can't understand,
do you think it's right housing all different species of snakes
do u think it's right they are housed in too smaller environments for them?
do you think its funny with the many videos he is producing of animal cruelty?
do u think animal cruelty is funny?
do u think is is funny to exploit animals in this way?
do u think the website you pointed out is the SAME as the videos?
if you said yes to any of these questions, then you obviously have no knowedge and I would go as far as you shouldn't have any pet!
sorry but this comment did anger me a little
and to be fair, anyone with some knowledge of corns or snakes in general would know that the tanks they ahve used are far to small especially for that amount of snakes regardless of species!
As it also happens I do know a lot about corn snakes, and I would say I am smart and knowledgeable.
It sounds like you are sticking up for a sadistic and cruel person who thinks it is funny (as u can hear him laugh) to do such terrible acts!
and in regards to ur sarcasm about proper husbandry
i could intepret that as you would do such a thing,
of housing different species together in small environments,
so i ask you your question "tell me how much smarter and more knowledgeable about snakes you are..."
in other words, since you feel we can't understand,
do you think it's right housing all different species of snakes
do u think it's right they are housed in too smaller environments for them?
do you think its funny with the many videos he is producing of animal cruelty?
do u think animal cruelty is funny?
do u think is is funny to exploit animals in this way?
do u think the website you pointed out is the SAME as the videos?
if you said yes to any of these questions, then you obviously have no knowedge and I would go as far as you shouldn't have any pet!
sorry but this comment did anger me a little
tyflier
[Insert Witty Commentary]
I did go back and watch the video originally linked, and the one linked by Blutengel. I stand by my original statements.
2 small boas(6' and smaller) and a BP in a 4' X 4' X 4' enclosure with multiple levels, multiple hides, multiple water and heat sources, and 2 species with reasonably similar care requirements isn't animal abuse, it's a personal choice. Are there risks? Sure. But not near enough to accuse and convict an individual of animal abuse.
Keeping a hatchling bp and 2 neonate boas in a 20long may not seem like the most intelligent method of keeping snakes, but it also isn't inherantly abusive or neglectful.
I never saw him throw any food randomly, anywhere. I saw a bp eating an obviously f/t rodent while a neonate boa sat calmly coiled in a corner. Risky? Sure. But still a far cry from neglect or abuse.
I didn't watch the rest of the guy's videos because I don't particularly care to watch videos that are likely to cause me nothing more than frustration at someone's ignorance. I don't agree with the guy's habits or practices any more than any of the rest of you do. I just choose not to label someone as a criminal without a single shred of evidenciary support of any crimes being committed.
As for the guy playing with his snakes...I didn't see him hurt or injur any animals. I didn't see what he did while he was on the floor, and I have no idea how "socialized" those animals are. There is nothing in the video to suggest any sort of wrongdoing, and certainly nothing that could be labled as avusive or neglectful.
That absolutely does NOT mean I agree with his actions. But are they really any more hurtful than any of the other millions of idjits playing with reptiles on cable TV and "learning channels" everyday?
I think the result of accusing these individuals of criminal wrongdoing is exactly opposite of your intentions. It doesn't help protect this hobby, because it shows a superficial support for the ideals behind the legislation we fight against. Our "enemies" can point at your accusations and say, "See? Even people with snakes think these animals require stricter regulatory controls."