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Haha yeah that would be pretty amazing, but i agree with both of you, surgury is pretty cruel i think. To make them go through that.
Yes by surgery, i agree with you is better to learn how to care for them than to put them thru all the procedure, but wouldn't be cool to hold a eye lash viper without the i might die part.
 
I think what makes hots so amazing is the combination of venom and beauty, so for me something would be lost if they were venomoids. I don't know if I will ever own hots (I kinda doubt it as there are so many other snakes I want first!) but I know if I do I won't have that surgery done to them. I would only take a venomoid if it was a rescue snake that otherwise wouldn't have a decent home.
 
You are NO where near ready for a hot. Heck I am 31 and have had snakes for years and I am no where near ready for a hot. Besides, it may not be legal to own one in your area anyway. You need to look into your laws. Also if you keep a hot, you need to make sure your hospital has the right antivinum, and chances are they do not, so you would have too...and it only lasts 3 months, so you would have to keep replacing it.
Hots are for professionals, not for someone young and not very experienced. The surgury for the snakes is very cruel and not always effective. Stick with something safe.
 
Dude, you can't learn how to properly deal with and care for a venomous snake by talknig to people online. If you really have an interest in hots, find someone near you that either works with them or keeps them, and ask if you can hang around and learn from them.

Than I recommend some actual experience with them, in the field. Dealing with a venomous snake is not easy, and it takes a certain amount of confidence, and a subconscious level of safety that does not come cheaply. Learn about the animals, their habits, their habitats, and learn by observing someone that knows what they are doing.

Otherwise...leave them alone...
 
Okay, i was thinking about a king, maybe a cali king? I think those are so beautiful. Either a cali king or a speckled king probably. What do you guys think?
 
I like speckleds, myself, but calis are gorgeous too, it all depends on what you can find at a reptile show or on the interwebz.
 
I personally would go with the speckled. That is by far my favorite king, mostly because of the memories I have as a child, catching them in the back yard.
 
Well, I was born in Louisiana, but we moved to Noble,OK in 89. Then in 96 we moved back to Denhamsprings, LA. That's where I found the majority of the snakes I caught... I did catch my first snake in Oklahoma at the age of 6 or 7. That's around two years after I caught my first Tarantula.

In 99 I caught a 5'3" Speckled King, right outside our back door on a pile of bricks... lol
 
Oh that would be awesome. The speckled and cali kings are my favorite to. Where did you live as a kid?

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This is me and my daughter in May 2008 with an adult male desert phase Cali King we found crossing the road. "Checkers" now lives in a 40g breeder and has made a wonderful addition to our home...
 
Its funny. The first cotton mouth I caught was at the same house where I caught the King. Which also happens to be the place where i caught my first copperhead. If I could own a hot, it would be a copperhead.
 
I was 16-18, and I usually pinned the head down so I could pick them up with control of their heads. I would not advise going out and catching your own snakes.. Accidents happen and I was extremely lucky that they didn't get loose when I was reaching for them.
 
I was 16-18, and I usually pinned the head down so I could pick them up with control of their heads. I would not advise going out and catching your own snakes.. Accidents happen and I was extremely lucky that they didn't get loose when I was reaching for them.

Don't do this. It is a very dangerous move. Fangs can pierce the snake's mouth and stick your finger, or the snake can make a sudden strong movement and whack ya'... Just don't do it...

If you must go out in the wild and play with venomous snakes, invest in a reasonably long snake hook. 30" is usually good for copperheads, but don't mess with an Eastern Diamondback, or you'll die. You wanna play, play with something that isn't going to kill you.

I DO NOT RECOMMEND YOU DO THIS!!! My original recommendation stands...find someone that is already experienced and ask them if you can hang around. That is the safest way for you to learn how to deal with these animals.

But you're 16. I was once, too. So please...buy a snake hook before spring rolls around... A good, long, solid snake hook. And be WAY more careful than you think you need to be...
 
Yeah i really want to try it, i think i could get it. I dont know though because like you said accidents happen and i have never done it before.
 
Ha i know, thanks, i will probably be getting a snake hook pretty soon. I will not try to get it by the head just yet, i need more experience first. If i do need to do something with a venomous snake i will use a snake hook probably, a snake hook and a really long net would probably work.
Don't do this. It is a very dangerous move. Fangs can pierce the snake's mouth and stick your finger, or the snake can make a sudden strong movement and whack ya'... Just don't do it...

If you must go out in the wild and play with venomous snakes, invest in a reasonably long snake hook. 30" is usually good for copperheads, but don't mess with an Eastern Diamondback, or you'll die. You wanna play, play with something that isn't going to kill you.

I DO NOT RECOMMEND YOU DO THIS!!! My original recommendation stands...find someone that is already experienced and ask them if you can hang around. That is the safest way for you to learn how to deal with these animals.

But you're 16. I was once, too. So please...buy a snake hook before spring rolls around... A good, long, solid snake hook. And be WAY more careful than you think you need to be...
 
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