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Issues with Stripes...

J_Daniels

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I remember reading in the Corn Snake Manual that there is a history of problems with Stripes.

I am now on my second Strip hatchling, my first died due to impaction (from what I have no idea, he was never on anything but paper-towels) and now my second can't seem to keep any food down (feed, regurg...wait ten days, refuses...wait a few more days, feed, regurg...).

Does anyone know anything else about this stripe issue? Anyone else with similar issues, advice, anything???

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It is probably just a coincidence. So far I have four stripes in my collection and they all eat like pigs and are very robust. Outcrossing has pretty much eliminated problems with them. My hypo stripe male is one of the fastest growers I've ever had and I really don't power feed him. Yours may be a result of bad breeding, parasites or just one of those that never seem to do well regardless of what type they are. I hope he gets better for you!
 
Stripes are weaker than most normal Corns. That is a fact. Some take longer to start feeding but once feeding there is no problem. In Holland a lot of people trying to breed Stripes loose their female with egg binding. That is a real problem.
 
i have 3 stripes and have to say that if i get a problem in my collection (30+) then its with the stripes. My amel stripe is presently refusing to eat and has done so for 3 months (he drinks basks etc acts normal) hes been to the vets had all the bacteria check ups and antibotics to no avail. The female stripe i have is also a picky feeder and will only ever eat 2 mice a week (shes 4foot) the other male stripe i have is nothing like to other two he'd eat till exploded and i have never had any troubles at.
The amel male i bred this year and i had nothin but trouble trying to get his hatchlings to feed ! out of 25 hatchlings which he was the father only 5 ate voulantary first off eventually i got them all going except for 5 (who are amazingly still with us dispite not eating a damn thing for 3 months- bar one or two mouse leg force feeds)
So there might be problems in some stripe lines i know over here they used to fetch silly money (probaly 200 dollars +) and so people have in bred them far to much (hence i am outcrossing ALL my stripes) but in genral i would have thought you have unfortunatley been unlucky
With the reguring try putting in a cardboard tube that runs ove rthe heat mat but also into the coll area of the tank, often frightened hatchlings seem to regurg as they are to scared to sit on the heat source the tube allows them move around "unobserved".
 
My amel stripe is the best feeder I have! She's the only one to never refuse a feed, has always shed nicely, never regurged and is all in all a calm snake. She even came out onto my hand when I put it in the viv from being a hatchling whereas the others were all a bit jumpy (Sid being not only jumpy but downright mean). Sid is a motley (not stripe I know but he's got a bucket load of genes in him anyways) and he's a brilliant feeder too.
 
Perhaps it is just the "European" stripes that continue to have problems. I know they used to have a bad wrap around here, but like I said, outcrossing seems to have fixed it. Perhaps the stripes over there are less outcrossed and closer genetically to the "problem" stripes? I definately wouldn't call any of mine "weaker", one in particular is one of the hardiest guys in my collection, never a problem with him. He came from Home Grown Herps, so J Daniels... if you want to try again with stripes, you may want to get one from him.
 
I agree with Terri and Carol. I have 6 Stripes and have never had a single problem with them. As a matter of fact, I have a couple of cb 03 het Lav Stripe that hatched in August and have been on fuzzies for more than three weeks.
 
I'm starting to think that it's a problem with the breeder. He's a local guy, and both of mine came from him (albeit 1 year apart).

The odd part is that this year I got two corns from him, an Amel Stripe, and a Amel Motley Stripe and that the Motley stripe is doing great.

I had assumed that they were from the same clutch, what with motley and stripe basically being the same gene and all, but they are a world apart. The stripe is turning out exactly like the one from last year.

Could it be that the Motley Stripe isn't from the same clutch and was outcrossed with say a Stripe dad and motley mom?

I don't know, maybe I just need to go tell the breeder that he should just quit with his stripes already...
 
IIRC the original problems were mainly with fertility in striped males.

Could just be a bad line, stripe or not. A lot of times breeders select for color and pattern instead of going with the biggest, healthiest hatchlings with the strongest feeding responses.

Or it could just be bad luck. A lot of breeders will let you exchange if you get a "bad" hatchling from them. See what he says.

Also, from what I understand, it's not very common to recover striped corns from the progeny of Stripe X Motley breedings, so IMO it's likely that your motley striped is from a different line.
 
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