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Lav or hypo Lav

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Frank Pinello

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What do you think (Hypo / not hypo)? I'm not sure...
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I think a little hypo with the reddish on the head markings and the little red on the tail.

Normal lavenders tend to be more greyish, purplish toned. I would guess that is a hypo lav. IMHO

But either one, it's such a great snake!!! Really nice photo!!
 
Hmmmmm........

I've only seen a few Lavenders in person and have never seen a hypo Lav in person.

It's pretty tuff to tell, from the pics on Rich's site it could go either way, dark hypo, light Lavender.

I'm assuming you bought it as a normal Lavender?
 
Great pic! It looks a lot like my male hypo lav. Then again my female hypo lave looks completely different. Lots of variation in these guys. But when they were still eating pinkies they both matched the color of their food. I havn't seen what a normal lavenders belly looks like, but with my hypo lavs the belly pattern is almost more faint than a snow's would be. I'll have to get some pics of these guys, it is so hard to do them justice.
 
Looks more like a hypo lav to me...the blotches are light, and the orange on the head and neck seems to occur more often with hypo lavs...Maybe Rich Z. would know? Hehe
 
that´s always the problem with hypo and older snakes.
I think they only way to say if this animal is hypo or not would be a pic from that animal when it was freshly hatched.
if it was dark it´s a normal lavender if it was light is´t a hypo...
 
I hope my pic shows up, it did in the test area (at least for now) anyway this guy looks a lot like yours from the top but I couldn't get a good top pic. He is a Hypo Lavender.
 

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Yes he is from Rich, I wish I could get a good pic of the female, she is more contrasting with pink/peach background and lavender saddles, one of these days I'll get a pic that does her justice. Thanks!
 
Please stop posting pic´s from your hypo lavender...it makes me sad...
I triede so hard to get some of them...maybe this year but I don´t think so :-...(
 
I vote for Hypo Lav, it is so cool to see dark eyes on such a light colored snake. But thats just my opinion.:D
 
They aren't cheap for sure, especially for my pockets. Are you producing them from those guys, Carol? I hope Rich has some of each left for MARS. I have to make sure I get what I want because I don't knwo how many more I'll be aloud to buy... lol --- how big are the pair of yours?
 
I like the term "pastel" for this variety, but didn't someone already coin that name to something else? Otherwise, that's what they remind me of.
 
That animal could be either one. I have had very light Lavenders and very dark Hypo Lavenders. That was before I learned that the trick is to label them when they are babies. As hatchlings, it is very obvious which are which in a clutch:

<img src="http://www.serpenco.com/pics/hypolavbabies.jpg">

Even though there is a bit of variation even in the Hypo Lavenders in that clutch, the difference is MUCH less than between the darkest Hypo Lavender and the regular Lavenders. But as they got bigger, the differences weren't quite so easy to spot. With selective breeding using some of the lightest of the ones I've been producing, I'm hoping to change all that, but as always, this is a work in progress kind of project.
 
To be or not to be HYPO>>>

I'm leaning towards non-hypo. Mine is also from Rich Z. He sold it to me as a normal lav. Its definitely not as light as Carol's so I'll have to keep it labeled as a non-hypo lav. There is only one way to know for sure so I'll have to wait to next year.
Thanks for all of your help....
Frank Pinello
 
Frank you may be suprised next year, I guess I got a little mixed up yours looks like my female, not male (in the pic) the female is darker like yours. He may be a hypo, I guess we didn't help much :rolleyes: Keep us posted next year! And to Cornsnakekeeper... My female just is not going to be big enough next year, she was the last 2001 corn I bought so I started her late. But the male I got early and he is a monster he will be breedable next year no problem. Another thing I can say about these beauties, they are great feeders! I plan to test him out on a Striped Motley het hypo female, an Upper Keys het hypo and a super nice hypo female. In that order, so if he is not that "studly" at least the Striped Motley should get the best chances. So thats my story and I am sticking to it.
 
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