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Live Feeding
- Thread starter mele2511
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starsevol
Cohabbing is cruelty...
Well let's see...are you aware of the injuries a live mouse might inflict on your snake?
Are you aware that your snake might not want to go back to frozen after having live?
Please ask yourself WHY you want to do this.
There is zero benefit to the snake in doing this.
Are you aware that your snake might not want to go back to frozen after having live?
Please ask yourself WHY you want to do this.
There is zero benefit to the snake in doing this.
starsevol
Cohabbing is cruelty...
Sometimes "more natural" is not better.
Snakes do fine on a thawed diet, without risk of injury.
Think this way, in nature it is natural for the majority of hatchlings to die before they reach a year old.
It is natural for a cheetah with a leg injury to starve to death.
It is natural for a raccoon to die of rabies.
Is it natural that dogs and cats eat out of cans?
When you keep something, ALL things should be taken into consideration. Their safety should be #1. Providing healthy food, without risk of injury (except in those rare cases that the snake will ONLY accept live), beats "natural" everytime!
Snakes do fine on a thawed diet, without risk of injury.
Think this way, in nature it is natural for the majority of hatchlings to die before they reach a year old.
It is natural for a cheetah with a leg injury to starve to death.
It is natural for a raccoon to die of rabies.
Is it natural that dogs and cats eat out of cans?
When you keep something, ALL things should be taken into consideration. Their safety should be #1. Providing healthy food, without risk of injury (except in those rare cases that the snake will ONLY accept live), beats "natural" everytime!
HaisseM
New member
mele2511 said:
If you're going to choose to feed it a live mouse, there are a couple things to look out for.
1. It's best to at least make sure you're snake is hungry....
2.Also since your snake is 5 feet, and you've never done it before, I would make sure that your snake will constrict (if it never did while feeding f/t, then something to be aware of).
3. I would almost recommend feeding it something smaller than normal just to make sure it has the size advantage and the risk of injury should be smaller (think of a midget hitting andrea the giant)
4. Another thing you can do is at least lower the consciousness of the mouse (hold it by the tail and knock it against the wall a couple of times so its disoriented)
Thats all I can think of at the moment, but those are the basics if you're going to feed live.
If anyone has extra please add
HaisseM
New member
Another thing you can do if you feed your snake in a separate bin is put the snake in 1st and give him a minute or two to adjust then put the mouse in....
Also I like to hold onto the mouse until my snake has bitten it and begun to constrict. (I've never used tongs, but I should probably go out and buy some and would recommend the same if you haven't already.
Also I like to hold onto the mouse until my snake has bitten it and begun to constrict. (I've never used tongs, but I should probably go out and buy some and would recommend the same if you haven't already.
JasonGranger
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HaisseM said:
Don't...do that... when the mouse rights itself it'll be even more angry.
HaisseM
New member
JasonGranger said:
??? Really ???
If you bang the head of the mouse on the side of the cage a couple of times it should be disoriented long enough for the snake to grab ahold and start constricting (mind you, this does have to be done within a few secs of feeding the snake to keep the mouse unconscious. )
ssmith_1187
In the land of Cheeeeeese
you don't really need to feed your snake live prey items.)
However, if you choose to do so, please understand there are inherent risks (listed above) associated with doing so.
Regards,
Steve
starsevol
Cohabbing is cruelty...
This is just my opinion here, but anyone who would deliberately and purposely inflict pain and suffering on an animal (even "just" a mouse) for NO REASON, is a sadistic monster and should be cited for animal cruelty.
And when a snake is eating frozen/thawed without a problem, there is NO REASON.
And when a snake is eating frozen/thawed without a problem, there is NO REASON.
ssmith_1187
In the land of Cheeeeeese
I try...and I try...and I try...
Let me add:
A responsible pet owner wouldn't assume those risks.
Regards,
Steve
Let me add:
A responsible pet owner wouldn't assume those risks.
Regards,
Steve
starsevol
Cohabbing is cruelty...
Thank you ssmith.
And jazz, you are correct. I did not think of that benefit.
But the risks outweigh, I think.
Do you remember that thread about using new golf balls in a tub to make a sort of "excercise chamber"?
I really need to try to find that in search, that sounds like wonderful stress-free excercise.
And jazz, you are correct. I did not think of that benefit.
But the risks outweigh, I think.
Do you remember that thread about using new golf balls in a tub to make a sort of "excercise chamber"?
I really need to try to find that in search, that sounds like wonderful stress-free excercise.
HaisseM
New member
Without getting too off topic here..... If someone ask a question, their is no problem in giving your opinion on the matter, but is it really necessary to try and insult the person when you don't agree with their outlook. I mean serious I try and ignore certain responses because I can tell they are looking to get a raise or to catch attention, but truth be told. It's really not necessary and should be stopped or MOD's should warn the person... :-offtopic
ssmith_1187
In the land of Cheeeeeese
Main Entry: opin·ion
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin opinion-, opinio, from opinari
Date: 14th century
1 a: a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter
You don't always have to agree with it or even like it for that matter...but everyone is entitled to one.
Regards,
Steve
starsevol
Cohabbing is cruelty...
HaisseM said:
Look at the original question. He asked if there was a safe way to do it, or should he not do it at all. I said he should not do it at all, and questioned why he would even want to. He said that someone said its good because it's "natural".
I gave a list of instances where "natural" is not neccessarily the best for the animal.
And I questioned why other pets are not expected to kill their own food.
jazzgeek
The Rule Of Thirds.
I'm going to play devil's advocate on this one.starsevol said:
Other pets are not expected to do so because we've domesticated them, whereas it would virtually be impossible with reptiles, given their lack of cognitive skills. These are animals that are practically all instinct-driven, as I see it.
I'll grant you, however, that they are "kept" animals, and most keepers would prefer the safety of their animals over the desire to maintain their "wild" behaviors.
regards,
jazz
