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motley stripe pictures please

ZiggysMom said:
Yes I know hom. motley snakes can be pin-stripe or Q-tip and "look" striped and hom. stripe snakes can be cubed. I also believe that many or even most het motley/ het stripe snakes look "motley". But I have read that some het motley/ het stripe snakes show some influence from the stripe gene. I also read someone make a passing remark that they did not like the "dirty" look to het motley/ het stripe snakes. This made me curious to see several examples with stripe influence.

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Well.. I just did a pairing of a Butter Stripe X Amel Motley who is a Pin Stripe (the snake I pictured in my previous post). This pairing is to test for Caramel in the male, but it will be interesting as well to see if the babies are normal patterned and just het for Motley and Stripe, or if they end up with a Motley pattern. Motley and Stripe share an allel, so I think it's possible?

I'm not 100% sure. Here is the pairing I did, we'll see what comes out! :cheers:
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Jessica, that female is either m/m or m/s. You can't tell by looking. If she is m/m, you will get all motley babies. If she is m/s, you will get some motleys and some stripes.
 
Jessicat said:
Well.. I just did a pairing of a Butter Stripe X Amel Motley who is a Pin Stripe (the snake I pictured in my previous post). This pairing is to test for Caramel in the male, but it will be interesting as well to see if the babies are normal patterned and just het for Motley and Stripe, or if they end up with a Motley pattern. Motley and Stripe share an allel, so I think it's possible?

I'm not 100% sure.
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Im 4 million% sure that none of your babies will be normal patterned. Since the babies' locus'(sp?) will each contain 2 pattern affecting alleles, the pattern will be phenotypically motley (any form of motley), and genotypically het motley/stripe. And there is the rub! Animals labeled mot het stripe (all of them) are technically labeled wrong. But i digress...

To expand (be more specific, i guess) on what Nanci said, If your pairing is m/m X s/s then all the babies will be pheno. mot/geno. het m/s. If the pairing is het m/s X s/s then the babies will be s/s or het m/s.
 
fyrefocks said:
Im 4 million% sure that none of your babies will be normal patterned. Since the babies' locus'(sp?) will each contain 2 pattern affecting alleles, the pattern will be phenotypically motley (any form of motley), and genotypically het motley/stripe. And there is the rub! Animals labeled mot het stripe (all of them) are technically labeled wrong. But i digress...
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That's what I was thinking too, but I lacked your confidence of 4million%. :bowdown: :bowdown: :rolleyes:

What should they be labeled as? Motley/Stripe seems just as confusing as Motley het Stripe. I suppose het Motley and Stripe would be the most accurate since there is only one of each gene, but it seems like that would get confusing.
 
Jessicat said:
That's what I was thinking too, but I lacked your confidence of 4million%. :bowdown: :bowdown: :rolleyes:

What should they be labeled as? Motley/Stripe seems just as confusing as Motley het Stripe. I suppose het Motley and Stripe would be the most accurate since there is only one of each gene, but it seems like that would get confusing.
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I stand behind het m/s, but WTF do i know?

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In my opinion, if you label the babies as other than what conventional naming as put forth by the only formal morph reference suggests as proper, you are just asking for trouble, if not ridicule, by people who don't follow your logic, or agree with it.
 
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