My new 1.1 2004 Adult Bloods

[Gronk]

Reddest on the planet...no, I've seen some on Don Soderburg's site and other places "redder".

Lore...those are gorgeous animals and photos. Those are the type of bloods that make one DROOL ! <G> You must be happy beyond happy, I know I would be.

 

[desertanimal]

Do I need to prove anything to you? No.

Is it a nice Sunny Day? Yes.

I fed them Yesterday, Give me 3 days & I'll take the flipping pictures outside

(this is why I do not frequent this forum, bs like this)

Aw, come on, Lore. This doesn't seem like you.

You've got some fabulous snakes, no doubt, and these two are no exceptions, but you gotta admit that red snakes look redder inside under flash than they do outside with no flash. All Menhir was pointing out is that what snakes look like in digital camera photos with flash usually doesn't represent exactly what they look like to the naked eye. This is true of many different morphs--people are always complaining that their snows aren't well-represented by photos, but, people rarely point out that their red morphs are remarkably photogenic.

Congrats on the new pick-ups! Can't wait to see what they produce for you!

 

[Pasodama]

A gorgeous Bloodred pair!! Congrats!

 

[Menhir]

All Menhir was pointing out is that what snakes look like in digital camera photos with flash usually doesn't represent exactly what they look like to the naked eye.[...]but, people rarely point out that they're red morphs are remarkably photogenic.

It seems at least one person does think before getting pissed.
:spinner:

...and I'm looking forward to see the outside pics.

 

[Lore]

It seems at least one person does think before getting pissed.
:spinner:

...and I'm looking forward to see the outside pics.

You know what pal, I don't know you, you don't know me. I don't ever have to worry about dealing with you. How about you leave well enough alone.

 

[Velvet]

I think they are absolutely stunning. I have seen bloods that red before...outside shots, no flash used. I think they are just exceptionally beautiful examples of the morph.

 

[Nanci]

Lore, will you find a picture of your MBK? I'm telling someone at work how you are such an excellent snake photographer, and wanted to use that as an example.

Nanci

 

[Lore]

Lore, will you find a picture of your MBK? I'm telling someone at work how you are such an excellent snake photographer, and wanted to use that as an example.

Nanci

I pm'd you

 

[TandJ]

Lore ranted off with the following..

this is why I do not frequent this forum, bs like this

I come across the same BS on other sites as well, so I don't think this site is all that exceptional to BS.. :headbang:

Sincerely Lore, I hope everything is well for you.. I was pretty suprised to see you respond that way.. Anyways, nice exceptional bloods you have there..

Regards.. Tim of T and J

 

[Lore]

Sincerely Lore, I hope everything is well for you.. I was pretty suprised to see you respond that way.. Anyways, nice exceptional bloods you have there..

Regards.. Tim of T and J

Excuse me, but am I not allowed to defend my self? Am I not allowed to defend the integrity of my photography & the fact that I have no odd settings. I was simply stating that I did no altering of the photos. Michael was insuating that whatever settings there are on my camera, that they could make a "green tree boa" look "that red" thus insulting the new snakes that I am so proud of.

Now because I have never had to "Defend" myself on the forum, because I have never had to be active in a debate, "submissive" Quad Mom is actually expressing REAL human emotion for once and people act like I've gone nuts. :uhoh:

You want an apology? Do I need to be the Adult? Ok, I'm sorry. For responding to Michael when I should have just ignored his comments and thanked the positive comments. :cheers:

 

[Gronk]

Now because I have never had to "Defend" myself on the forum, because I have never had to be active in a debate, "submissive" Quad Mom is actually expressing REAL human emotion for once and people act like I've gone nuts.

Lore....

I don't see you as acting "nuts". Especially after Menhir's follow up reply about the "reddest on the planet" stuff, you have the right to defend yourself. In my view the "flavor" of his replies are calling the photos into question.

Anyway, again, beautiful snakes...you're one lucky Lady. <Smile>

 

[Drizzt80]

Congrats on the pair Lore. I'm a sucker for nice looking Bloodreds!

D80

 

[Lore]

Congrats on the pair Lore. I'm a sucker for nice looking Bloodreds!

D80

Thank you.

Then you'll enjoy this thread

http://cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53585

Scroll down & take a look at the hatchlings... they are hatchlings produced by this pair :dancer: Good for *me* to see what I'll be producing next year, that's for sure

Course its funny how I'm still tempted to purchase some of them from Michelle anyway. LOL! :laugh:

 

[Menhir]

Sorry, but the only childish person in this thread is you.
What did I say? I said these are nice animals with great diffusion and a very uniform coloration.
What else did I say? I said, that the camera makes them remarkibly redder than they are. Did I say you did this by intention? No - I even cleared that up.

If you think that they are these red, than its fine - I still do not trust that, but thats my problem, right? I did never criticize you or your animals - I criticized the WB of the cam.

And just for a comparison, I took a picture that Michelle took of her bloods from her website. It's the 04 ones and that MAY be yours or siblings to yours or whatever. I think the picture shows quite well whats wrong with your WB setting - AGAIN - that I don't think you did by intention, but thats a common problem that even highend DSLRs have with artificial light and red.

Sorry, but I simply don't understand why you have to "defend" anything, cause I don't see me ever offending you as a person or your animals.

Greetings

 

[Menhir]

You know what pal, I don't know you, you don't know me.

Just that you don't get me wrong. What you are saying is very true and that's the reason why I don't understand that you take my comment that personal. Besides the fact that it wasn't meant that way, I feel sorry that we cannot talk about the photographic facts itself. Maybe due to my fault and if so, I appologize.

 

[Lore]

That's funny, if you were on the other forum you would see how she complimented how I captured them way better then she was ever able to, as SHE has seen them in person, as have I, you sir have not. & she asked if she could use my photos for when she sells the hatchlings to show the parents, because the photos ARE accurate.

thank you & have a nice day :cheers:

 

[Tula_Montage]

I disagree with the way menhir confronted you about the photographs, but I do believe he has a point. When I photograph snakes inside, with the flash (as you are doing there) they always turn out much more vibrant than what they actually look like. Their colours look harsher and red snakes ALWAYS look more red when I take pictures. When I take my snakes outside, their true, subtle colours show.

Thats not at all to say that any indoor pictures are completely misrepresenting your new beauties by any means, I know some bloods are just out of this world, and I would feel extremely privileged to own that pair. I am just saying that those pictures DO look a little artificial due to the flash glare. Thats all... I don't doubt those snakes are the reddest bloods around though.

Oh and I also see no reason to mention "the other forum" and make it an issue. I don't believe for 2 seconds that site does not have its fair share of idiots too, as does every internet forum. I may not want to be part of that community due to the negativity I feel is present there.

 

[Yvonne112]

Those are some pretty red snakes you have there. I've actually seen some the same color at Reptilia here in Toronto, so I have to say that I think you've captured the color with amazing clarity.
My suggestion to you in regards to a non-believer is to just ignore the comments, although I really do understand the need to defend your "babies". It's a maternal thing :laugh:
Rise about it Lore...the pics are georgeous!

 

[Menhir]

I disagree with the way menhir confronted you about the photographs, but I do believe he has a point.

Oh come one - the green tree comment was a joke. I don't want to start the native speaker thing, but even in bad english, that was noticable. I haven't "confronted" her and stated not only once, that I was talking about the camera and not about her. Isn't that enough? If someone could explain to me how to form a comment about (maybe) too red snakes such that no one feels offended, I'd be pleased to hear. I'm serious and not sarcastic at all!

& she asked if she could use my photos for when she sells the hatchlings to show the parents, because the photos ARE accurate.

I haven't read her speaking of accurateness. I think we both know, which pictures sell better, don't we? :bird:

None the less, I'm still convinced, that Michelles pictures show what one seens when one opens a viv. I own a few bloods, I took a few pictures and I know of the differences. You seem to have this experience as well and we may end up disagreeing.
I'm still looking forward to see these animals under natural light and I wish you good luck with em - Michelles offspring seems very promising.

Greetings

 

[Lore]

You know what Michael. You can back off. Are you just trying to completely trash me? I said I would photograph them outside with no flash in the grass on a sunny day

CLEARLY Mother Nature on my Birthday is not cooperating with me

http://www.weather.com/outlook/home...ator&lswe=60542&lwsa=Weather36HourHomeCommand

nor is it tomorrow or the next day.

Would you lay off, I admitted to having a bad day, I apologised. Would you leave the subject alone.