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Mystery anery?

Josua

Josua

Colubrids rule
I have them for a while now, but I'm not sure what morph they are, so what better place to ask then here :)

I have a couple 'corns' which were sold to me as "ghost lavendel".
The seller didn't breed them, he just sold them. All he could tell me is that the mother was a ghost, the father is unknown.
I can tell you that they are NOT homo hypo, because of their belly's. I also don't think they are homo lavender, but they do have a 'glow' over them.
Then off course it is possible that they are not pure corns, but to be honest, I can't say I can find anything strange about how they are build.

Anyone has any idea? Any input is welcome.
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Edit:
The first picture is the best one, but on the second picture the colors look more like in real life.
 
Looks like an anery to me...possible frosted (which may or may not mean an intergrade/hybrid). Very pretty! I like the brown tones showing on his head...and the more I look at it, the more the color has that "maroon" touch seen in the Z morph (aka anery C) but not as much...but my eyes aren't what they used to be.
 
Definitely NOT homozygous for Lavender............
 
Seems to have a very broad flat head for a Cornsnake. Again, the term "Hybrid" may be at work here. Very good chance, with all the frosting and the shape of the head, that it could be a cross between a Cornsnake and a Grey Ratsnake. Then again it just may be a really nice looking Anery.
Jay & PJ :cool:
 
Thanks to you all.
Now I am a bit further in identifying them :)

The frosting is indeed a sign of a grey rat cross, but I must say that the headshape isn't really different from a 'pure' corn.
Let's hope the snakes are at least het. lavender, but I doubt that (because the father then should have been an anerylavender. You don't see a lot of adult males over here yet).

But I just keep them for a while. Maybe the change color a bit.
I can breed the couple together, but I keep them away from my other corns to be on the safe side :)

Anyone else who has some input, still let me know :rolleyes:
 
Sometimes the frosting can be indicitave of a hybrid; but I have some corns who came from the "big guys" who pretty much guarantee theirs to be pure corns and they have frosting. And to me the head doesn't look hybridish at all; looks like a regular corn head to me.
 
This is something of intrest to me .. I look at the head pattern and I have noticed on a lavender or two that the particular pattern seems to show up on lavenders.. We have an anery male het lavender with a similair head pattern.. Is yours a high bred? Who knows, personally if we are assuming from head shape alone that might not be a good idea. Why can't there be a variance in the corn snake world like we have in the human world.. Stands to reason in me that it might just be variance in them as well, much like each personality in them... :shrugs: Below is our anery male het lavender.. Looks similair to yours Josh, even in the head pattern..

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Regards.. Tim of T and J
 
Hey Tim, thanks for your post.
I check out my male (the brother of the corn on the photo) wich just shed. He doesn't have that head pattern, but he also doesn't have any (or much) frosting.
I will take pics from the male, and I think nobody will think that it is a grey rat cross.

P.s.
But what is a high bred? :shrugs:
 
anery

I really don't see anything there that would make me think anything other then anery.
The head is flattend a little but that looks more "defensive" then anything.
Looks similar to one of my anerys. Although Bindi here may have more frosting.
And I know there is no grey rat in this girl. She was hatched here.
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sorry...

Well, it is al long time ago that I said I would make some pics of the male.
Here he is :)

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and the female once again:
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For the record: These 2 snakes are siblings and they were both labeled as 'ghost lavender'. I know that they are not homo hypo or homo lavender.
I would still like some input from you guys about both the male and the female.

Thanks :)
 
hmm.........you've set us a real task here Joshua.

I, particularly, admire the colouration of the female. Her tones could indicate Charcoal in the mix?

However, as I scrutinize her more..........her eye seems unusually round & the distance between them & the nasal area quite short. This, of course, could be explained by the angle of the photograph, so, we remain in a dilemma.

Did the seller ever mention why he purchased & then sold on to you in a short time?

Lex.
 
Hey Lexcorn,
The seller buys and sells snakes, he didn't breed them.

The overall colour indeed seems charcoal-ish, but as you can see in the male, there is a little bit of yellow comming trough in the neck area, so I think it 'just' a anery A.
The grey undercolour might indicates miami blood in them?
 
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