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I think the subject was also food quantity. A feeding guide posted by one of the mods is a good start.
Give a thought to the mouse bite thing, it really would suck if it happened to your snake.
 
Iguanagirl8662 said:
Not point in arguing with nasty people.
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No point in arguing with the ignorant newbie who thinks that risky husbandry is just fine and dandy. These newb know-it-alls have never seen a picture of a snake that lost an eye or worse due to live feeding. But since they know it all, they get really shocked when their stupid practices bite them in the ass and their snakes suffer because of it.
 
Welcome to the forum from a fellow 24 year old NJ girl! lol..I love your new snake! I always look on craigslist and never saw an ad for that one..but I'm glad it got a good home..For now I would say maybe feed it one pinkie every 6 to 6 days..following the link mentioned above to the feed guide is a great start :0) If you want a light for your snake try and get a red light as snakes cannot see red light so it would be a perfect way to make the tank look nice but not interrupt your snake. I'm not sure but to me your snake looks more like a normal then a blood..but I could be wrong..So what kind of setup do you have for your new little friend?
 
All I'm saying about the discussion going on in this topic is: getting a morbid thrill out of killng off an animal is weird.

Now then. I see you're also from the not so lovely garden state like quite a few of us.
Be advised that blood reds are actually illegal for us to keep.
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/pet-dealer_info.pdf
I would change your location in your profile just in case.
 
Thanks for the tip on the red light, Maize, I will have to do that. What makes you think it's a normal corn? I was just told he was a bloodred by the girl who sold him to me and it seems to look similar to pictures of bloodreds I googled. Oh and the add for him is actually still up, she is also selling an amel and an orange candy cane and some other tank supplies.

Thanks Noob for the illegal snake heads up. What makes them illegal? I couldn't read the document you linked.

Just for the record, I said that I'm morbid and i like watching them kill as half a joke, truth is it does fascinate me and I do like watching them feed. I don't get a "thrill" out of it. Im not a weirdo. Sorry if it came off the wrong way.

And Starsevol do you really have nothing else to occupy your time then picking fights on an internet forum? Trying to hijack my thread! We get your point already were not trying to have a debate here, I'm trying to introduce myself and get some info to better care for my new pet.
 
Also to answer your question Maize, he is in a 20 gallon long with some repti bark, a heat pad under one of those plastic hides and a hide and a water bowl(he uses for a hide) on the cool side. When I get some extra cash I'm gonna buy one of those nice rock hides and a log to make the tank look more appealing.
 
It has to do with the fact that they are endangered here. The Pine Barrens are their northern most habitable region. So since they think we're evil and stealing corns out of the wild they want to make it so that we only have non wild type corns to prove we havn't nicked them :rolleyes:
 
Snakebear said:
And Starsevol do you really have nothing else to occupy your time then picking fights on an internet forum? Trying to hijack my thread! We get your point already were not trying to have a debate here, I'm trying to introduce myself and get some info to better care for my new pet.
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But how to FEED your pet is a huge part of taking care of it. It's the basics, really. And feeding your pet in a manner which could be very unsafe is a huge issue. Keeping your pet safe is a huge part of "taking care of it", wouldn't you agree?
I'm sorry about how I have come off, but live feeding a snake that will happily accept thawed is something I have a big problem with. Your snake depends on YOU for his safety, so why risk a bite or worse when you don't have to? I have NO problem with live feeding a snake that won't accept thawed, I mean what else are you going to do?

It just makes no sense to me that you feel your pets safety comes second to your desire to watch an animal die.
 
Corny Noob said:
It has to do with the fact that they are endangered here. The Pine Barrens are their northern most habitable region. So since they think we're evil and stealing corns out of the wild they want to make it so that we only have non wild type corns to prove we havn't nicked them :rolleyes:
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Jenn, I wonder if having snakes registered with the ACR would help the keepers in NJ. I mean if you have a pedigree for your snake going back several generations it would prove that the snake was captive bred.
 
Iguanagirl8662 said:
Not point in arguing with nasty people.

So anyhow back to your question about the light. Corns normally come out at night so they don't need a light but if you want one you can use anything as long as the tank doesn't get to hot.
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Well if you tought 'loverats' was nasty, seriously feed as you wish, but when your snake gets bitten you'll know better.
As for light, no not any light will work as UV could be harmful to the cornsnake. If you really want to watch the snake a low watt red light(25) will work fine and give you great night viewing. Just adjust temp accordingly, put it over the side with heat mat.
If you must feed live, stun it first, no need to torture the poor mouse, especially since it is used to frozen.
 
Like a red light I would get in a pet store? Or any novelty bulb? Are any other colors, blue maybe that are also acceptable?
 
I have red lights in my snakes viv that we turn on at night. It's nice to be able to see her when we walk into the room, but the red light washes out her colors.
She can definitely see the red light. She reacts to my movement outside the viv front (3/16" glass) when I'm only lit by red light. It must still be like night to her though, because she is very active at night with or without the lights.
 
*shrug* no matter to me if your snake gets nasty bite. Infection in an exotic should be a fun thing to deal with too. If you can't find thawed locally, order online. I used Canadian Mouseman, overnight shipping from a different province and the total cost still came out to about a dollar per mouse.

I've seen some live fed snakes in pretty bad shape in rescue, one had scars all along it's body. Another had a bite on the face so bad it took out 1 and half nostrils and he has to breath with his mouth open. That probably won't happen with pinks, but when your snake is eating adults who *really* don't want to die you're probably going to have a problem at some point, and it can be a challenge to switch back to thawed.

I also hate the "it's natural/he likes it" argument. Do you toss your dog in a kennel and feed it a live raccoon? That's what would happen in the wild too, right?
I think most people here view live feeding as bad husbandry, it's risky to the snake and has no benefits for the snake, only for the keeper. Which IMO is selfish. I made sure my roommate was fine with mousecicles before I got a snake, and if came to it I would have bought a mini freezer off of craigslist.

So yes, starsevol is a little passionate about corns, but we all here. It is conrsnakes dot com, after all.
 
Snakebear said:
I get the point but again I must say I didn't start this thread to debate feeding...
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lol it's ok, happens to just everyone I've seen on every snake board I'm on. They all end up as a "let's tell the new guy what he's doing wrong" marathon.

And I agree with snakewispera snr, sometimes I feed my eat-bot of a spotted using my bare hands to wiggle the mouse (seriously, his feeding response is either 100 or 0, and no where in between. You guys want to talk about sick thrills, I got em'). I'm not as brave with my adult amel, he gets the salad tongs treatment. He still constricts with glee, I even tease, I mean, play with him a little to get him to hunt it. Still fun, no danger (at least until I get bit), and a good time is had by all.
 
I won't say I never feed live, I have fed live pinks to snakes that refused to eat anything else. If it's strike response you are looking for live is no guarantee. I fed today and my big Creamsicle struck, constricted, struck and constricted again and that mouse was dead and defrosted. Which I was happy to watch because this is his second meal after his hunger strike.
 
Still got a few more questions that could use answering =P. He is an 07 about how many months is he? I'm not sure when breeding season is. Also do you think he is big enough to do 2 pinkies at a time? I have no way to weigh him. I got him a 40w red bulb(couldn't find any smaller) but combined with the heat mat and the fact that I'm on the third floor I think he might get too hot. I'm gonna keep a close eye on the temp but is there any other lighting I could use that won't put off heat?

Also dropped another $100 today on making his cage look nicer, what do you think?
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