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Next Snake

HVani

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Ok so I have an AP t8 coming and I'm brainstorming on a new snake purchase. I'm gonna divide the cage and have my okeetee on one side and something else on the other. I just ca't decide what!

I've been agonizing for months and I need some help. I'm looking for something relatively small and totally different from what I already have.

Ideas I have so far.

A ball python, either a queen bee or lessor bee
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Pros:pretty low key, good for watching TV with. Looks very different from what I already have
Cons; The feeding, feeding strikes are annoying and I would like to avoid feeding live. Also not sure if I want to add another rat eater, especially if I have to feed live.

Imperial Pueblan Milksnake

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Pros: Just awesome looking, likely to eat FT and doesn't get too big, ton of variation between individuals

Cons: Not sure if I want to deal with another poop slinging milksnake, is a hybrid



Anery Brooks Kingsnake

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Pros: I just adore king snakes, looks awesome, always will eat

Cons: Similar to what I already have
 
Here is what I already have:

Black milksnake
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Snow Corn Snake
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SMR Extreme Okeetee Corn Snake
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Khal Sunglow Boa
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I am totally open to new ideas. The above is just what I have already thought of.
 
Angolan Python...

Maybe some of the small Australian pythons like children's or spotted. European and Asian ratsnakes might be another option.

There are also a few US species that can be fun and challenging: green ratsnakes, various milksnakes, rosy and rubber boas, lyre snakes, fox snakes, all sorts of garter snake mutations and checkered garters will typically take mice readily.
 
I love Olive Python, and Spotted. The Olive would eventually outgrow a split tank though, but what a great snake.
 
Aren't olives really mean?

I will look into the asian ratesnakes. Some of those are pretty cool.
 
Iirc olives can be mean and do get large. But speaking of mean and large-ish...maclott's aka freckled pythons have always been a favorite of mine. Male tend to remain on the smaller side.
 
Olives require a lot of hand work, when little. There is a guy that hangs out at an alligator farm in Alabama. He has a decent sized Olive that he brings with him. He lets people pass his snakes around while he talks. His is absolutely beautiful, and completely tame. He has taken out all head shyness. You can put your hands over its eyes, or whatever. It is a great snake. He said he spent a ton of time with it to get it that way. I have wanted one every since spending time with his.
 
Olives require a lot of hand work, when little. There is a guy that hangs out at an alligator farm in Alabama. He has a decent sized Olive that he brings with him. He lets people pass his snakes around while he talks. His is absolutely beautiful, and completely tame. He has taken out all head shyness. You can put your hands over its eyes, or whatever. It is a great snake. He said he spent a ton of time with it to get it that way. I have wanted one every since spending time with his.

There's a couple like that which walk the Arlington NARBC and Dallas area Repticon shows with a gorgeous female maclott's. The snake is an absolute sweetheart. Going on 15 years ago I worked for a local herp and fish shop out of high school while knocking out most of my basic college courses. We had a vicious young male maclott's that I'd worked with daily. I'd finally set aside money to cage it and purchase it to only have a German customer (we had a wing of the German Air Force stationed at our local USAFB) that had been watching me tame him purchase the snake. Was my fault as the store owner had no idea I wanted it. It's the one modestly sized python species I'd love to work with.
 
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That cool to hear. If I was going to get a larger snake I would love a white lipped python. But I don't have the room
 
Kenya sand boas do have some neat morphs. They need pretty high temps don't they? I worry about the corn on the other side getting too hot.

Time to go browse on faunaclassifieds for pictures :)
 
Well here are a couple more I'm considering

Green Bush Rate snake
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What a cool little snake. Looks amazing, diurnal and semi arboreal.

I've always had a soft spot for Bairds Ratsnakes. Just neat snakes

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If you're going to divide the cage, you need something that has the same heat/humidity requirements- not a ball python. Any milksnake or kingsnake would be okay. Florida kings are REALLY cool- everyone should have one!
 
Yeah I'm thinking along the same lines.

I'm thinking less and less of a ball python. Just too fussy.
 
If you go king or milk direction make sure the lid of the cage is just as secure as the actual inner cage division. Cannibalsm sucks!

Although SW US snakes, bairds and green rats (Senticolis triaspis) will fair perfect under similar care as corns. If you go with a green rat, a moist, dark hide is key in keeping the snake feeling secure and feeding regularly. I learned that lesson after a year of struggling to get one well established.
 
I did not have a problem creating distinct temps and humidity levels in a divided AP cage, but you will need more than one uth and have to plan their placement. They will insert extra grooves for probes (they are very accommodating!). The divider fits pretty snugly but I sealed it anyway with the sealant they provide. I had a uth in the middle (overlapping the divider) and one on the far end. If you wanted a sand boa you should be able to keep the middle of the cage 80-85 and the far end of one side at 90-95. The corn would have a nice gradient from low 70's to 85.
 
Ok Snakes currently in the running

Anery Brooks

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I just love kingsnakes. Will pretty much eat anything and easy to keep

Bairds Rate snake
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These are such under rated snakes. Easy going personality and easy to keep.



Maybes:

Imperial
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Green Bush Rat Snake
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The imperial still has me concerned of getting musked. I hate that
The Green bush snake has some concerns with Husbandry.
 
I think you should go with Titanoboa! If you get a male and don't over feed him, you should be able to keep him a manageable size ;)

Also, I've always kind of liked garters. :) Have fun!
 
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