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obese snake?

Could you provide a picture from above so we can see how she looks? It's easier to tell from what I understand seeing the actual snake. Thanks.
 
It's a very individual thing, more to do with body proportion and shape than just a straight size-to-weight relationship. You can have heavy snakes that are in proportion and not overweight.

A photo would be the best way for us to offer an opinion.
 
No your snake is not overweight! You could feed two or three mice a week and that wouldn't happen. Until it reaches adult size all the food goes into growth lengthwise.
 
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that lump is from the mouse i fed it 2 days ago...is it time to feed it something bigger?


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the next two pics are what it was back in december when I first bought it

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it is obviously getting ready to shed...but that is how much it has grown since mid-december of 2009 I am still useing a 20 gallon long tank.
 
I have to admit, I thought it was more nice looking when it was younger. colors were always brighter. even when it sheds now, it does not look as nice as it did in December
 
The snake does not look FAT to me. If you want you can ship the snake me because I am FAT and I personally think it is a nice looking normal corn. Just my 2 cents and if you need my shipping address just PM me.:crazy02:

Love the Fatman
 
Dick, I had a juvenile that grew fat with the same feeding schedule as others (in her 2nd year). She hardly grew longer and since I bought her as hatchling i know she was older. I reduced her feedings and she got slimmer but some typical 'hip fat' stayed.
 
I saw this thread before, but I didn't catch on to what you said until seeing the picture. That snake should not be eating an adult mouse yet. The bump should not look like that 2 days after you fed her; it should be pretty much gone. You also should not be man-handling her just for some pictures when she clearly has not digested her meal yet. The Munson plan suggests that snakes that are 170 g can start having adult mice, but you also need to keep in mind the rule of don't feed the snake a prey item that is any more than 1.5 times her girth. If you care about your snake, you should be feeding it frozen/thawed mice, but that's another issue.

So, to answer your question, no, the snake should not eat the next size up. Mainly because there is no next size up...once they reach adult mice, that's all they eat for the rest of their lives.

I was also very confused when I saw that you have a portion of your tank filled with water and a filter for a corn snake?
 
wow sweetseraph , such a criticizm and being judemental, asumeing I dont seem to care about my animal. i have the filter and water for few reasons...

1: I gave her aplace to swim and relax. I find her often there (and its not because the other side is too hot, in my opinion, i think 74* on the 'hot' side is too cold...but this snake just might be differnt then your ordinary corn, i dont konw , but she seems happy. She takes a swim, a lot of corn snakes do that.

2: It prevents me from haveing to give her fresh water every day becuase I have such a busy schedule. and the filter in there is to prevent the water from just siting out. when you have moveing water it prevents bacteria growth. It has been like that for 3 months, shes dong fine.


I was obvously only handeling her, as gently as possible for the pictures, duh.
 
Blutengel said:
Dick, I had a juvenile that grew fat with the same feeding schedule as others (in her 2nd year). She hardly grew longer and since I bought her as hatchling i know she was older. I reduced her feedings and she got slimmer but some typical 'hip fat' stayed.
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I've never seen a fat juvenile. I regularly feed 3X weekly until eating fuzzies then twice weekly until roughly 30", but that is eyballed, not measured. Was this a super inactive animal, really large prey items, cool enclosure or something? I've seen plenty of corns with those Oprah hips, but never one under 30" or so.
 
A really good quick way to tell if your corn is fat, is if when you check out their tail near the vent there is a squishy bulge just before it, the tell tale "snake hips" ( and your snake is not ready to poo or preggers lol) Another quick way, if when the snake is laying straight, parts of the scales are stretched so much, that you can see the skin between the scales. the scales should be together for the most part when the snake is not bent and just straight.

of course these are general guidelines. I find weight to length not as perfect for guessing corn obesity due to different muscle densities as well as gender differences, or even age.
 
I can tell if a snake is fat. My point/question was that I've yet to see a fat juvie, and am curious if it can even be "done." And if so, what are the circumstances?
 
The juvenile was quite an inactive type indeed, but the enclosure temps were the same as others. This is her in October '07, she is a '05 baby. See the hips?
 

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Color's are generally coolest when they are juvenile. Not unlike most humans, snakes look best at that age.

I just hope God doesn't look down on me and say, he was so much nicer looking a few years ago. ;)

I like your cage though, what do you use to separate the water from the substrate?
 
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