OMG OMG PLEASE HELP!!!

[Unicornman154]

Some people should stick with sea monkeys is more like it. 75 cent comit gold fish can live quite a few years and grow to 10" long

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[axis1]

Some people should stick with sea monkeys is more like it. 75 cent comit gold fish can live quite a few years and grow to 10" long

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I was thinking more along the lines of a slug. But then again, even slugs must have feelings, so maybe not.

 

[DLena]

I think there should be a "Dead Pet Pet Store" for certain people. That way, everybody's happy and no animals are harmed.

 

[daddio207]

I tend to find that the old adage is usually true - "You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." Now, I haven't been very active on the forum lately, so I haven't seen the specific threads you're talking about, but people usually are more willing to take your advice if you address them with respect and kindness. A lot of the time, you'll see the same types of threads get posted - often by a person who bought a snake without reading up on it first. It can be hard to not get frustrated when you feel like you've answered those same simple questions many times previously, but the person posting that thread does not know that that question has been posted plenty of times already and letting your frustration show when you're answering will just turn that person away from the forum. I would much rather just answer the question, try to help the person without making them feel bad, and then hopefully they'll stick around and learn some more.

If your way of dealing with people who post threads that annoy you is to not reply to them, I think that's a much better option than responding to them in an irritated manner. One of the great things about the internet is that you can take a step back before you hit that reply button and review your tone and message.

YES !!!!!!!

 

[Karl_Mcknight]

Flies are pests and carry disease. I'm not interested in catching any, I'd rather kill them or shoo them away.

And regardless how you talk to somebody, if they are ignorant, stupid, childish, or annoying, your method of discussion will not alter that. This may just be a message forum, but it's still part of the real world, and real people understand the difference between reality and fantasy. I prefer to stay in reality.

Holding hands, singing kumbaya and we are the world actually never has solved anything. It may be kinder and gentler and easier than being truthful, but the Truth will always be better even if it hurts.

 

[Amanda47]

You're not really suited to helping people.

 

[Karl_Mcknight]

"Your Opinion" is meaningless to me

 

[Dragonling]

Flies are pests and carry disease. I'm not interested in catching any, I'd rather kill them or shoo them away.

That's why you catch them: to get rid of them. No one's asking you to hold anyone's hand or spoon feed them information they could get with a simple Google search, but many of your responses to newbies do occasionally lack any amount of tact. Some folks don't see the need for it, and as a highly tolerant person I can accept that that's just the way you are and we can get along just fine, but a lot of people find it abrasive and rude. I don't expect you to change though. People don't really change. We can still be pals though. Like I said, I give far fewer f***s than the average person.

 

[axis1]

You're not really suited to helping people.

Hi Amanda! How ya been?

I'm not one to usually jump in and take sides and heavens knows, me & Karl haven't always seen eye-to-eye nor have we made plans to hold hands around the campfire :eek1: however, one should give credit where credit is due if one practices the Golden Rule and I have to say that I have actually gotten help from Karl from more than one of his posts where he has shared his experience with others who were exasperated for one reason or another.

In my opinion, everyone has different styles of writing and expressing themselves which is a stark reflection of their personalities and while Karl is kinda blunt, no-nonsense, and to the point, it doesn't necessarily equate an unwillingness to help others.

On the other hand, while I may have the patience to deal with those whose shortcomings tend to annoy others, employ a sense of humor which borders on the offensive regardless of gender, sexual orientation, creed, religion or lack thereof, my tangential, sometimes coddling, often rambling and schizophrenic posts have the potential to hurt while I intend to help, enrage while I am trying to comfort, or offend while I am seeking a chuckle. It's all in the eye of the beholder. . . I think.

The bottom line is, this is a community, one hopefully made of various personalities and differing ways of life, socioeconomic backgrounds and doing things, with one very important thing in common: a love & passion for reptiles, especially, but not necessarily limited to, cornsnakes. I, for one, am grateful I discovered this place. I happen to be, in addition to a snake lover, a bona fide adrenaline junkie who skydives & runs long distances as a way to soothe my manic, tri-polar mind & brain! If everyone were the same here, I'd PROBABLY be bored to death and would have to be outta here faster than long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs!

Just sayin'. :crazy02: So as Rodney once said, "Can't we all just get along?"

 

[axis1]

.. . . People don't really change. . . . QUOTE]

Ouch!!!! :crying:


Say it ain't SO!!

Actually, as far as personalities are concerned (i.e., traits, characteristics, the basics that make a person that particular person, etc.) I would agree with you. However, there ARE a few - a small sample given the great majority of homo sapiens who inhabit the planet - who can and DO change. Really. I know because I happen to be one of them. Not saying I'm special in any way. Just someone who had to change in order to survive. There are many like me who choose not to and are not here to talk about it for one of many reasons.

Just sayin'. :santa:

 

[DLena]

Could people please just step back for a moment and let things de-escalate? This forum is a very special place, and ... Please.

 

[Nanci]

Holding hands, singing kumbaya and we are the world actually never has solved anything. It may be kinder and gentler and easier than being truthful, but the Truth will always be better even if it hurts.

In terms of the world in general, I think this is pretty true.

 

[DLena]

One of the strongest points about this forum is the sense of community that we share with each other. It's so important to realize that this needs to stay a safe place to come for help. If we truly want what's best for animals, it's important to be able to listen and respond in a way that won't cause people to lie about or ignore a problem for fear of castigation. It's not always easy to be kind, and often it's darn right frustrating. But what is the purpose of this forum?

 

[Timmeh___]

I understand I'm new here, but there is a way to help people without being blunt. I understand you guys who normally respond to questions get the same exact thing over and over with people not knowing what to do in a certain situations. You say:

but I have began taking names, yup, that's right, taking names of the people that post silly threads, or want to argue, or who lash out and call you names after you've offered them help, and I'm just not going to respond to these people anymore.

You recently commented on one of my threads that was a genuine question, saying this:

But thanks for the post anyway, your name just went into my collection bin.

What did I ever do to you? Are you mad just because I asked a genuine question that seemed "silly" in your eyes just because im asking for advice and I dont already know how to deal with a situation? I don't understand your "logic" here.

 

[axis1]

Could people please just step back for a moment and let things de-escalate?QUOTE]

Kinda late for that DLena, though I do admire your Cooler Heads Will Prevail attitude! You are pretty awesome!

One of the strongest points about this forum is the sense of community that we share with each other. It's so important to realize that this needs to stay a safe place to come for help. If we truly want what's best for animals, it's important to be able to listen and respond in a way that won't cause people to lie about or ignore a problem for fear of castigation. It's not always easy to be kind, and often it's darn right frustrating. . .

Wow!

The owner of this forum should use these words as a banner or ad or on any link associated with this site. You have said it all!

My apologies for exacerbating this particular problem, if that's what I actually did. That wasn't my intent. However, wherever I go, my mouth or my words tend to get me into more trouble than any of my actions because they are usually noticed before I even DO something! If that makes any sense.

Regardless, your statement was too powerful to ignore! Right-On DLena!

 

[nicolefowler2005]

I've learned so much from you too Karl!!!


Nicole

 

[Dragonling]

Ouch!!!! :crying:


Say it ain't SO!!

Actually, as far as personalities are concerned (i.e., traits, characteristics, the basics that make a person that particular person, etc.) I would agree with you. However, there ARE a few - a small sample given the great majority of homo sapiens who inhabit the planet - who can and DO change. Really. I know because I happen to be one of them. Not saying I'm special in any way. Just someone who had to change in order to survive. There are many like me who choose not to and are not here to talk about it for one of many reasons.

Just sayin'. :santa:

You probably changed your actions and behaviors, but did you really change who you are? Do our actions define us or is it something deeper and less concrete? I am an arrogant person. I can learn to hold my tongue and remind myself that I'm not nearly as awesome as I might think I am to avoid making people dislike me or worse, but I will probably always be an arrogant person regardless.

 

[axis1]

You probably changed your actions and behaviors, but did you really change who you are? Do our actions define us or is it something deeper and less concrete? I am an arrogant person. I can learn to hold my tongue and remind myself that I'm not nearly as awesome as I might think I am to avoid making people dislike me or worse, but I will probably always be an arrogant person regardless.

Tough questions to answer within the scope & depth of this here forum, as the answer I would give could potentially take up to the equivalent of several chapters in a textbook! I appreciate both the challenge, as well as your honesty. There aren't too many folks I know that are so comfortable with themselves to be able to reflect and disclose so honestly. Insight is a gift.

In short, if THAT's possible with me, I believe that the base of someone's personality or character traits will NEVER change, unless there is some sort of cognitive or physical brain trauma or injury. However, a personality is defined as a cluster of various components other than physical traits, for example, personal values & beliefs, one's perspective of the world, a person's attitude, demeanor, and ways of dealing with situations, relationships, etc., just to name a few. To change one's actions and behaviors consistently and permanently, one has to, at the very least, change an essential component of what makes up his or her personality. The way a person laughs or cries may remain constant but the things a person laughs or cries about is what changes.

So yes, a very complicated issue indeed. I guess I asked for it though. :eek1: But it's all good. No harm done and possibly some good in that, at the very least, we were compelled to do a little introspection!!!

 

[daddio207]

"Your Opinion" is meaningless to me

That statement sums up how you "contribute" here on this forum!

Close-minded !


Keep driving the newbies away!

 

[daddio207]

One of the strongest points about this forum is the sense of community that we share with each other. It's so important to realize that this needs to stay a safe place to come for help. If we truly want what's best for animals, it's important to be able to listen and respond in a way that won't cause people to lie about or ignore a problem for fear of castigation. It's not always easy to be kind, and often it's darn right frustrating. But what is the purpose of this forum?

KUDOS !!!!!!