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Question on Bloodred, diffused, masque

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Okay, I have the newest version of the corn morph guide. Actually it is just about falling apart because I have looked at it so much.

I still do not understand these 3. (bloodred/diffused/masque)To me they all could be the same. Can someone put it in simple terms(if possible) the difference.:blowup:
 
I've been struggling with that one too! Masque is separate from diffused but is also present in the bloodreds? Huh?
 
From what I have seen, diffused is a simple recessive genetic trait.

"Bloodred" has an infusion of red, which is NOT a simple recessive genetic trait. I have seen diffused-sided normal corns which I would not call bloodreds (although some people might).

Hypererythrism (excessive red pigment) is inherited in a variable manner and individual snakes from a clutch can exhibit different amounts of red infusion.

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I'm not sure what masque is offhand, so I'll pass on that for now.

How I look at it is bloodred and diffused are often used interchangeably. I.e. "Granite" = bloodred anery. However, I think that a true "bloodred" is your basic deep red normal bloodred animal, when you add other colors to it I prefer to think of it as diffused because it is no longer that same bloodred "morph". So I prefer to think of a "Granite" as a diffused anery...but I myself even use the terms interchangeably (bloodred vs diffused). Wow, I think I might have just confused even myself :rofl:

Hmm. I guess just think of the "trait" as diffusion/diffused. When you have anery, or lavender, whatever mixed with it, it is diffused. I think of the bloodred as the diffusion + the normal deep red color, kind of like a selectively bred animal I suppose. But you just have to get used to it that bloodred is often used to describe diffusion in animals. I guess I probably agree with what tspuckler was saying.

Sorry if that was confusing, I can't make coherent sentences today.
 
Ask Chuck? I have heard some morph names popping up, that I never ever heard of.. Doesn't mean we have not seen them..

Whats the hecks a carbon or moondust? This is why I chose to stick with common names, so things don't get confusing.. My only exception is my Creamsicko line/Ultramel Cream.. Thats a name I personally coined because I felt it was fitting with my lines of them.. Any one know what I should call the anery versions?
 
jlindp said:
I've never heard of Masque. But I'm almost certain that Bloodred is line-bred Diffused.
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In a nutshell...EXACTLY!
most of the other combo names like Bloodred Caramel...Bloodred This...Bloodred that...should really be labeled as diffuse ( because it's the diffusion that should be phenotypically showing, not the actual pigment).
Just saying.
 
Bloodred was the term used when the gene was first found. They were describing the deep red color that you get as the animal ages. Then it was figured out that it was more of a pattern morph than a color morph. A Bloodred Ghost has no red, the name doesn’t fit. It was suggested that the name be changed from Bloodred to Diffused. The old name is use incorrectly a lot now. I could be used to describe a deep red that you might get from line breeding but it does not belong to the Diffused look.
 
First are two full brothers. Both are homozygous diffuse, but only the first might be considered a bloodred (he's actually just clearing up from being blue and is getting ready to shed in this photo while brother is freshly shed).

The last three are also full siblings. The first two are homozygous diffuse but the male (2nd one) has more of the "baldy head with horns" head pattern which is characteristic of what is called the masque gene. It has not been completely identified and all the workings figured out. The last female shows the characteristics of the masque gene...the slightly baldy head and horns as well as the split belly pattern (see next post). It is not known if it is the masque gene actually causes the suspect het diffuse markers or truly an effect of the diffuse gene in het form. Both diffuse and non-diffuse can show or not show the characteristics of the masque gene, and it's not known yet of it is linked to the diffuse gene or just a coincidence.
 
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Here is the belly of the one female.

Next is another set of siblings. These are both known het diffuse and are homozygous motley. The female has a typical head pattern while the male is showing a classic masque head pattern.
 
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