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Rep Power??? PLEASE HELP!!!

I second everything Jay said. That is the best post I have read in a long time and really sums up everything I love about this site.
 
Wade, you could change your signature to say,
"Please do not send me rep points as I do not use this function. Thanks"
I know there is someone else around here that does that when referring to the friend function.
 
Susan said:
Trader ratings on Fauna isn't all you make it out to be, especially if no one uses it. I have a whopping rating of 3 on Fauna and all of them were from sales done over 4 years ago. Nothing from you yet, Josh. ;)
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Yeah got to put one up for you when I get a min did for a few people yesterday. Thanks againt the snakes are doing great. The female is about to shed and I think I will put them together after that.
 
Ok I do feel all the points that some of you have made. This is a Very tight knit site everyone one knows everyone. RIGHT!!! So I guess everyone one here is just super popular. Cause I dont know about any of you but I dont have 20-30 even 40 thousand friends and know the ends and outs of each one of them. That is how you are making it sound. The site its self is not as tight knit as you make it sound. It cant be with that many people viewing it and that many members. Yes there are very tight knit groups of people. But no one here knows everyone on this site. Hell some of the more popular people here have less then a hundred friends.

Yes I am the one that complained about being a contributor cause I paid for a membership here and had no clue what it was for. There was no readily available information on what is a contributor. Did not know that you need to be one to have sale adds, change your screen name, get into the insiders club (which yes I was disappointed to see nothing there when I paid. I was just in the mind set that the holy grail of snakes is in there. Well I was very wrong there.), you can store more messages as a contributor, post more threads and post, get a shiny. These are just a few things that come with a contributorship. Well now because of that thread I started and because of my anger towards it there is now a 15 page thread all about being a contributor. So it may have started bad on my part (which I totally apologized for in the end and changed the heading and everything) but it ended with a full information thread so that others can see what comes with a membership.

I do argue other peoples points. I am a debate kinda person. I have every right to my opinion. In case you didnt nodus some people like and agree with my ideas. So they must not be all that bad.

Besides in such a tight knit community how is someone like myself coming from the ground up make a name for myself. Well rep points and trade ratings for starters would not hurt. Second making my opinions know and trying to make good points with people. Helping others out with there snake questions and problems (which giving advise is yet again only a opinion). Also because I do want to sell a product which happens to be the passion of my life and has been sense I was 13. I need people to tell others that "Hey I got some really good snakes from that guy" or "Man this guy paid for my snakes in full no problems at all". Yes the BOI is here. But some people dont have or want to use there time to post a paragraph message about someone else.

This is why the trade rating would be a good thing on this site. Its easy and quick. The rep points can stay for what they are mostly used for none business stuff. Hell put the rep points on fauna too. Some of you make the trade rating out to be the worst thing ever. Like it will hurt you to have it here. Are you scared to you have something to hide. It would be a great tool to have for those that use it. I would use it all the time. For people I sell to buy from and trade with. To let the rest of this very tight knit to know that "that new guy over there is a great guy or a crappy guy".

Sure it will cost a few bucks to change the format of the site. But with the money the site generates (which is more then let on I think just count up the people paying here every year its alot). As well as the money that people themselves generate here what is the big deal with spending a few bucks to put up a new tool to only help the site and the people that use it everyday in the long run.
 
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Sure it will cost a few bucks to change the format of the site. But with the money the site generates (which is more then let on I think just count up the people paying here every year its alot). As well as the money that people themselves generate here what is the big deal with spending a few bucks to put up a new tool to only help the site and the people that use it everyday in the long run.
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You want to spend the money to do it? Because it seems no one else here has the inclination to ask Rich to do it. Most people don't see a need for it and I imagine Rich would be the same since he does run both sites and Fauna already has it so there is no need for it here. So unless you want to fork the cash over to Rich on a yearly basis yourself .....
It isn't that difficult for anyone here to go to Fauna to check out the BOI - that is what I do if I feel the need.
Besides in such a tight knit community how is someone like myself coming from the ground up make a name for myself.
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The same way I did....you start off not being a PITA to everyone and everything that you are trying to represent by constantly trying to change a system that has been in place since long before you were here. You get to know the people here as it is indeed a tight knit community that watches out for each other. You start advertising your snakes or purchasing snakes and slowly but surely you can make a good name for yourself. You work honestly and truthfully with your clients and believe me - it does get around. Word of mouth should never be underestimated.

There is not necessarily anything wrong with questioning the system, but everyone has pretty much already told you that we don't need it, we don't want it and it isn't going to change so why do you keep harping on the issue?
 
Question...

ArpeggioAngel said:
There is not necessarily anything wrong with questioning the system, but everyone has pretty much already told you that we don't need it, we don't want it and it isn't going to change so why do you keep harping on the issue?
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Answer....

Reptileman81 said:
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I do argue other peoples points. I am a debate kinda person. I have every right to my opinion. In case you didnt nodus some people like and agree with my ideas. So they must not be all that bad.
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Candace, that is not true, we all love you. Really.

Mr Reptile, lets do an experiment. Go the the BOI and check me out you can see my name and company name right here on this post. See what kind of a guy I am and decide weather you should do business with me. Then come back and let us know what you found.
 
Besides in such a tight knit community how is someone like myself coming from the ground up make a name for myself.
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Well I've managed it twice so far, so it isn't impossible (abandoned an old ID and came back 18 months later to start afresh). These key things have worked for me:

1) Good manners
2) Patience
3) Knowledge/experience
4) Being here for months/years, rather than weeks/months

The quick way to make a name for yourself is to be a PITA, but that's probably not the effect you're looking for. The positive path takes longer - you need to spend time building credibility and trust, just as you would if you were starting out in business (now there's a useful parallel for you).

And I'm sure that other people here disagree with me pretty often. Just because we're a community, doesn't mean that we speak with one happy constant voice. We have the same range of opinions as any other community. You can join in and be a voice any time you like - the alternative is to stand outside, complaining .
 
I just think its crazy for anyone to say that it would not be useful to have the trade rating here. It cant hurt anything can only help. But what do I know right I am just the new kid on the block yes this is true. But sometimes a new voice and opinion is a good thing. To get a different prospective on things new ideas. Yes I am new here and yes you have no need to lesson to me or think anything I say is good. But I have been in this hobby and business along time. How many of you can say you are doing your childhood dream. For most people there childhood dreams stayed in there childhood. Well my childhood dream was to be a successful reptile breeder and seller. To one day own a well know pet store. I have wanted this sense I was 13. I have been in the industry for along time just on the sidelines. Well I am ready to spread my wings and move to the next step in my life long dream.

Trust me when I say that I have all kinds of good ideas and knowledge to give to those that need it. Plus as I have said before you are trying to say no one likes this idea. Well look back at this thread a few people agree with me on this issue.

I have brought this to Rich's attention. Well just the same as some of you he is like its not worth it. Only because he doesnt want to spend the money. Even though he said this I quote:

The purpose of all this is to try to help you to help yourself keep from getting burned. We are not going to be responsible for your making a mistake, as all we can legitimately do is TRY to give you all the tools we can to help you to not make a big mistake. YOU are responsible, ultimately, for making the decision as to whether or not you feel comfortable engaging in a transaction with another party.
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Well this is one of those tools. But once again a great idea is thrown to the trash cause a simple format change for a few bucks cant be done. As far as why dont I pay for the change. Well I kinda did when I paid for my contributorship.

As far as going to the BOI in fauna to find out about someone on cornsnakes. Why should you have to go to a different site to do so. Plus what if that person doesnt deal on fauna only on cornsnake. Just think there is a few flaws in the system that need attention and most of you are just numb to the way things have gone for years and are just scared of change.

Over all though I am learning to love this site and some of the people on it. I do think it is a great system and some great people here. But I also feel there is a few things that could be changed

Plus the few people on fauna that have the super membership with the red shiny's pay $500 bucks a year. Just those people alone pay for the running of both sites. Not counting all the other paying members on both sites. So there is money to add a few simple things
 
Well this is one of those tools. But once again a great idea is thrown to the trash cause a simple format change for a few bucks cant be done. As far as why dont I pay for the change. Well I kinda did when I paid for my contributorship.

As far as going to the BOI in fauna to find out about someone on cornsnakes. Why should you have to go to a different site to do so. Plus what if that person doesnt deal on fauna only on cornsnake. Just think there is a few flaws in the system that need attention and most of you are just numb to the way things have gone for years and are just scared of change.

Over all though I am learning to love this site and some of the people on it. I do think it is a great system and some great people here. But I also feel there is a few things that could be changed

Plus the few people on fauna that have the super membership with the red shiny's pay $500 bucks a year. Just those people alone pay for the running of both sites. Not counting all the other paying members on both sites. So there is money to add a few simple things
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All I know is everything I have seen from you thus far on this site has been criticism. You don't like this, you don't like that, this needs to be changed etc.... If anything, all you are doing is making a name for yourself on here as a whiner. I personally would not do any business with you just based on how you have presented yourself thus far on this foruim. You could have the nicest snakes around at the best prices and I would buy from someone else that I know and RESPECT.

You don't come on to an established forum that has been running smoothly for many many years and automatically start practically demanding that things be changed because you don't like how they are or they don't make sense to you. I don't see anyone else complaining the way you have about any of the "issues" that you perceive.

And how do you know how much any of it costs anyways? There have been many ideas broached on this site for how certain things could be done differently that have not been implented due to cost and IMHO that is Rich's right because this is HIS site. A while back there was a chance that the BOI on Fauna could be permanently closed because it was COST PROHIBITIVE to keep it up and running. Which means that Rich was NOT receiving enough money in contributorships and personal forum purchases to cover it. So what does that tell you??? That these sites are not cheap and easy to maintain and anything that costs anything additional has to be seriously considered as to if it provides enough benefit to make it worth it. Since enough people - Rich included - do not find this feature you want to be beneficial enough to require it (BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY ON FAUNA) then that is that.

If anyone has questions here on someones reputation - either we can fill them in from our own experience - or they get directed to the BOI on Fauna. Simple as that. Can we move on now???
 
bitsy said:
Well I've managed it twice so far, so it isn't impossible (abandoned an old ID and came back 18 months later to start afresh). These key things have worked for me:

1) Good manners
2) Patience
3) Knowledge/experience
4) Being here for months/years, rather than weeks/months

The quick way to make a name for yourself is to be a PITA, but that's probably not the effect you're looking for. The positive path takes longer - you need to spend time building credibility and trust, just as you would if you were starting out in business (now there's a useful parallel for you).
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5. Good grammar and spelling...something a 'professional' should really possess (and is very much lacking in this case).


Reptileman81 said:
Plus the few people on fauna that have the super membership with the red shiny's pay $500 bucks a year. Just those people alone pay for the running of both sites. Not counting all the other paying members on both sites. So there is money to add a few simple things
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You clearly have no clue what it costs to run sites like these...

Edit: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ArpeggioAngel again. Wonderfully said Katie. I'm with you, based on the reputation built so far, I will also avoid doing business with the OP.
 
Personally, I can't believe you paid $25 for something without knowing what you were paying for and now think that you can dictate how the site should be run after having been here for 1-2 months. New ideas are great, but the site owner has told you no and it all sounds rather redundant anyways, since the very same owner has provided that service on another site. You say you would use the service here, but it sounds like you don't really use the service on the other site.
 
WOW so we are back to the criticizing my spelling and grammar. First and foremost sense the last time i do my best to spell things correctly or spell check when I am done. The grammar and puncuations part!!! Come on I am not english major nor do I want to be. This is text not me writing a book. I still cant believe that I am getting hassled for this. I type as fast as I can cause I have a lot to say. I spell as good as I know how and spell check now after ever post. But yet this is still not good enough for you. So if a english major is who you want to do reptile business with well I guess I am not your guy and I will never be.

I am not whining nor am I trying to complain. Just trying to give a opinion on something that could help everyone out. But its cool I said it before on a previous thread and now I guess I will have to do. No longer with my opinion come out of my mouth. No one here likes a thinker. They just want you to conform to the way things are. Well that is what I will do from now on. Cause once again my opinion, advise, and knowledge is not welcome here. You people sure do know how to bring in new people to a site. Possible new customers of the same hobby that I love but unsure about some of you. I have seen nothing but bashing from so many of you. You just knit pick at anything and everything I say and do. From my ideas to posting up my reptiles.

So now that my feelings are extremely hurt I will say far well to you all. I will come back at a later date. But for now have no need to be treated as a idiot that knows nothing about anything. Thank you so much for making me feel welcome I only hope that you dont treat all new people here the same way.
 
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