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Sad Day to Post Pictures

Joni Garcia

Gotta love 'em!
As many of you know, I don't get around to posting pictures very often. Too bad it takes something like this for me to get my butt in gear.

My favorite girl, Zahra died last night. She was a beautiful Anery Stripe het Bloodred with a wonderful attitude.

All my other females have laid their eggs in 12 hours or less. Zahra started laying her eggs Saturday night. She'd only laid 4 eggs in 18 hours. I knew she was having trouble, but decided to proceed with the "benign neglet, wait and see" method. She was in a quiet area with a towel over her tub. The family even got the "no running around, slamming doors, or doing anything that might disturb her" lecture.

Yesterday, I changed my plans and decided to encircle and loosen the egg closest to her vent, then aspirate if needed. A cornsnake friend who lives nearby was going to stop by, see my girl, and assist in holding her etc as needed.

I got things ready, then opened Zahra's tub and could tell that something was very wrong. I picked up her almost lifeless body. She moved her head, took her last breath, and died in my hands within the next minute or so. Within a couple minutes, my friend arrived. I told her Zahra'd died and she helped take care of the eggs as I removed them.

There were 14 eggs, but none of them look good. Of course, I put them in the incubator anyways. I did notice that the one closest to her vent had the "sandpaper" feel of a good egg on the very end of it only.

Unfortunately, I don't know if any of the four eggs she laid will make it. It appears that two, maybe three are trying to develop a network of veins, but a very weak network compared to another clutch that was laid on Saturday.

When I removed her eggs, the oviduct membrane was "shrink-wrapped" around each egg. Since this procedure was a first for me, maybe Hurley or somebody can answer my question... Does this naturally happen after a snake dies? Or is it because the oviduct was twisted?

I remember reading Cheryl's eggbound Easter post, and feeling so sad for her and the beautiful Butter girl. Well, I guess Murphy hadn't left California yet and decided to stop by here. He'd already been here once to take a couple of my most anticipated clutches! Now he got my special project girl. I think he's done enough damage in California between Carol, Cheryl, and I. Maybe he can take a vacation now.

You might think this is an awful thing to say, as I don't wish this on any of my snakes... but, why did this happen to my favorite girl? I'd even bought a special Hypo Bloodred boy just for her. All the other females did just fine. I guess Murphy wanted to do a good job breaking me in as a first year breeder. Well, he did a good job!

Lastly, I want to thank those of you who I talked to and who've helped me with Zahra's situation the past couple days. You know who you are... and my deepest gratitude goes to you for all your concern, advice and help.
 

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A picture of her man - A beautiful Hypo Bloodred from Carol.
 

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I feel your pain!

certainly been there done that!

I too lost a favorite female in the first years of breeding. Was a gorgeous ghost I thought the world of. Lost her when she laid her first clutch. After laying she went downhill fast and died. I have two of her daughters now, plus two grandchildren that now knock my socks off!

Anyhow, sorry to hear about your loss, she indeed was a beautiful snake. you take care and keep your chin up, there will be plenty of good days ahead in this breeding snakes affair! Take care.
 
I am terribly sorry for you Joni. If you need to take more time, please feel free to hold off on shipping the Coral Motley for me. I know that's it's a bit of a distance for you to go to Fedex.

Once again, you have my deapest sympathies.
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I am so sorry. I can't even imagine what it feels like - I know how anxious I was about my one girl when she was laying for "our" first time.

Her beau is a beautiful boy and hopefully at least one of her eggs will make it.

Jo
 
So sorry to hear, Joni.

To answer your question, yes, the oviduct is "shrink-wrapped" around the eggs. It's so thin and there's no air or fluid to fill up the vacuum, so it is wrapped about the eggs. She was probably dehydrated, too, which will make the oviduct sticky and adherent.

Don't give up on those eggs just yet. I had to unkink an oviduct in a female last year right at the opening into the vent to get out the right oviduct's eggs. Those eggs were almost slug-like, really slimey, flimsy, deflated, but whitish. I incubated them anyway, like I do most questionables, and most of them ended up pipping. Until they fungusify, keep them separate (as in not right up against the good eggs) and wait, watch, and see.

Again, sorry to hear about your girl. I know how hard it is to lose one to egg-binding.

Connie
 
Thanks to all for your replies and kind words.

Connie, thanks for the oviduct information. Too bad I had no clue what to look for as I'm curious to know what was causing her problem. All I knew was that I needed to remove her eggs. I was wishing I lived close so you could take a look at her for me!

I agree that she was probably dehydrated. I assisted her in finding the water bowl on Monday, because I was worried about that. She just drank and drank.

I definitely won't give up on the eggs and did place them in a separate container last night. Thanks for sharing what happened with your eggs... it shows that you just never know.
 
I'm really sorry Joni! That just happens to some of them when you breed. I don't think we will ever figure out all the causes to egg binding, or any treatment that is best. :(
 
Aww... she was lovely indeed! Have strength! Hope she might leave some baby's on this world to comfort you a little... my throat feels tight now!
 
I'm so so sorry for your loss. :(
I'm having the most horrible deja vu right now.
Earlier this year I lost my Anery Stripe after she laid two eggs.
 
I can sympathize with you, as I lost a female this season too. Keep your fingers crossed for the eggs. I got one beautiful baby from my girl, I hope you get nice babies, too.
 
I am so sorry for your loss......

I lost my favorite girl last August to the same thing.
She left me 3 beautiful kids.....one looks exactly like her.
 
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