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Steve Irwin Dies at age 44, A sad day in the herping world..

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Vinman said:
Then you prove me right . Most people dont care about nature . So the ones that like nature have to be entertained by a with acting foolish . Sorry that is for people with low attention span or low intelligence. A traditional wildlife documentary is watched by people that have a true love for nature, no matter what levle of intelligence you have high or low.
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And the entire point is that Steve Irwin got people who DIDN'T care about nature before ... to care about nature NOW... and to contribute to its conservation.

So what if the people in question needed showmanship as well as education?

The result is the same - over 90,000 acres of land that is dedicated to conservation. A program to tag crocodiles and track their movements which has provided more valid scientific data about crocs than we had before Steve started his show. Conservation of Indian elephants. Conservation of tigers. Relocation of problem crocodiles that would otherwise be shot - which keeps them in the gene pool, so that we don't wind up with the same genetic bottleneck we have in animals like cheetahs. And a move to prevent crocodile safaris for rich folk who want to go out and prove they're 'real men' by killing a wild animal with a bullet at long range.

Vinman, I honestly do not believe you have made the same contribution to wildlife worldwide as Steve Irwin has.

Would you really, genuinely walk into someone's husband's funeral and tell their grieving children that you thought their father was an idiot and that he deserved what he got? Honestly?

THAT is what you have done here. You've walked into the online version of a funeral service that people who admired Steve Irwin - perhaps idolised, perhaps worshipped, perhaps even loved - and peed on the virtual flowers. Didn't you think that maybe someone had SENT Terri Irwin (or the Australia Zoo) a link to the thread, on the basis that people wanted to share their grief and their love for someone who is now lost? If someone from there ever sees it, what they're going to see is Vinman taking a poo on the floor in the middle of the service.

Ever so classy, boy.

By the way, I don't know exactly how zoos in the US are run (I haven't lived there for eight years) but I know that zoos in the UK are DEFINITELY privately owned just like the Australia Zoo... it doesn't mean they aren't working towards conservation.

I suspect American zoos are ALSO privately owned when you get to whose name is on the light bills.

I'll leave my feelings on cooked diets for snakes and the 'mystery corn soup morph' out of this particular thread.

Steve Irwin was my hero. I thought he was mad as a pair of trousers, but I saw what he was doing for conservation, too. I want to be like him - to educate people, to make people not just 'like' nature but to love it. To show them that snakes and lizards are not monsters to fear - that they are animals, individuals, just like any other. And if I ever DO make any money doing the school presentations, it's going to Steve's Wildlife Warriors Worldwide. It's what I can do to remember someone who made a difference.
 
Very well said :)
Stevo was a lizard drinkin (I think that's the expression) and I will never forget him. My mom is 71, I didn't even know she watched the show. She's mourning like a family member has gone, she loved him.

As much as I enjoy baiting the troll, I am trying to stop. Out of respect for Steve.
 
Ssthisto said:
Steve Irwin was my hero. I thought he was mad as a pair of trousers, but I saw what he was doing for conservation, too. I want to be like him - to educate people, to make people not just 'like' nature but to love it. To show them that snakes and lizards are not monsters to fear - that they are animals, individuals, just like any other. And if I ever DO make any money doing the school presentations, it's going to Steve's Wildlife Warriors Worldwide. It's what I can do to remember someone who made a difference.
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I agree totally.

Does anyone else feel like Steve was the first to legitimize a true and undying love of reptiles? I was first attracted to them in the late 80's as a small child, when you didn't see herps in the store and you rarely ran into "normal" people who kept them. Then in the mid-90's here's this crazy Australian who well and truly loved these animals. I watched every episode with rapt attention, realizing that someone else felt the same way.

:cheers: Hats off to you, Steve, and clear skies.
 
Yes I think he showed the world that reptiles can be loved by everyone, not just the goth :)

I will never forget the clip of a snake latching onto his hand over and over again while he gently pried it off saying "please stop that mate".
 
starsevol said:
Yes I think he showed the world that reptiles can be loved by everyone, not just the goth :)

I will never forget the clip of a snake latching onto his hand over and over again while he gently pried it off saying "please stop that mate".
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I've seen that particular scene I think, it was very funny and touching! He just completely understood why the snake was latching onto him...
 
I don't recall seeing this link posted here, so I'll add it.

Wildlife Warriors Worldwide

This is the charity that Steve and Terri started to raise money for wildlife conservation across the world. You can make donations in memory of Steve's life and love.

I'd also like to reccomend that folks pick up or borrow from their local library a copy of Steve and Terri's biography. I bought it on impulse Friday night, and it was a fantastic read. Went into a lot of detail about the conservation work Steve and Terri have done, and I learned a lot of cool stuff as well. For instance... never knew that Steve had a rare Australian turtle named after him that he found and described in the 80's.

Also detailed the endangered species program at the zoo, which is kept out of the publics eye and works to raise and release endangered Australian animals. Very cool book, I highly reccomend it for anyone who consideres themselves an Irwin fan.
 
Shrap said:
:-offtopic Mark O'Shea jeff Corwin. Who are they?
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I've never seen Jeff Corwin, but I've seen a few of Mark O'Shea's shows. He' a red-headed Brit. It was at least two years since I saw him on TV, but on the day Steve died Sky News (in the UK) had a short interview with him about Steve's death. Poor Mark looked rough! He's looked real guant like he was on drugs or suffering from an AIDS-related illness, I hope he's not (even though he's a knob) and is just looking rough for some other reason.

I prefered Steve to Mark. I know someone who met Mark and he said that Mark came across as a knob who thought he was all that.


David Bellamy (well-known (in the UK at least) naturalist) said that he cried when he heard about Steve.
 
Anyone remember the clip of Steve crying over Mary, the old crocodile? I think she shared an enclosure with Agro and Cookie. He was really upset, poor guy
 
Demonique said:
I prefered Steve to Mark. I know someone who met Mark and he said that Mark came across as a knob who thought he was all that.
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Came across as a WHAT?! (The brit slang has lost me this time)
 
Vinman you talk about loving nature but you yourself stated your snakes are nothing but objects for trade not pets. That said the mystery of why you can't see the obvius enthusiasm and LOVE Steve had for all animals or begein to understand it. You cant even leave alonea thread dedicated to his memory because you as self appointed herp God dont approve of him.

Enough man start your own thread telling us all what a knob he is and leave this one for those who wish grieve the loss.

Post a link to it here I am sure there are those that will follow you there to argue.

BUt this is for remembering him not trashing him, I would demand the same if your name was at the top of this thread instead of his, and as I have already stated I don't even like you. All I am asking is that you give Steve whether you like him or not the same courtesy.

Start your own thread man.
 
Asvard said:
Vinman you talk about loving nature but you yourself stated your snakes are nothing but objects for trade not pets. That said the mystery of why you can't see the obvius enthusiasm and LOVE Steve had for all animals or begein to understand it. You cant even leave alonea thread dedicated to his memory because you as self appointed herp God dont approve of him.

Enough man start your own thread telling us all what a knob he is and leave this one for those who wish grieve the loss.

Post a link to it here I am sure there are those that will follow you there to argue.

BUt this is for remembering him not trashing him, I would demand the same if your name was at the top of this thread instead of his, and as I have already stated I don't even like you. All I am asking is that you give Steve whether you like him or not the same courtesy.

Start your own thread man.
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#1 I never said that steve did not love the animals I said that he stressed them out . I did not like the way he appoached the animals. on a number of shows I didn't like the way he handle the animals.
#2 I stated that If you stop bringing up my name I wont be posting on this thread. As so, I have not posted for a couple Of days until you and you only have wrote to me. I dont give a rats ass if you like me or not . So if you dont want to hear any negitve comments about Steve, stop stiring up the mud. I think all you want to do is argue, Since I have not posted on this thread for 6 days I would say you are just trying to make trouble. If you want me to stop posting any negitve comments why are you bringing my name up after 6 days that I have not posted :shrugs: Stop acting like a jerk!!!!!
 
Vinman said:
#1 I never said that steve did not love the animals I said that he stressed them out . I did not like the way he appoached the animals. on a number of shows I didn't like the way he handle the animals.
#2 I stated that If you stop bringing up my name I wont be posting on this thread. As so, I have not posted for a couple Of days until you and you only have wrote to me. I dont give a rats ass if you like me or not . So if you dont want to hear any negitve comments about Steve, stop stiring up the mud. I think all you want to do is argue, Since I have not posted on this thread for 6 days I would say you are just trying to make trouble. If you want me to stop posting any negitve comments why are you bringing my name up after 6 days that I have not posted :shrugs: Stop acting like a jerk!!!!!
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In this I have to agree with you!
 
My Apologies

well to everyone I reply to the post when I can get to them and did not look at the date sorry. If what has been said was true yes I would be a jerk next time I will look at dates more closely.

I only bring up Vinmans name too say I still havent checked the date of your last post and will assume your statement is correct and that you are trying to avoid further conflict.

That said you have my apology

Sorry let us agree to disagree then and let this forum move on

My apologies
Asvard
 
on the first page i thought it was funny when some person was talking about the red spitter wasting its precious venom. Snakes constantly produce venom in their "VENOM GLANDS" lol
Well, venomous species anyway :grin01:
 
Well guys, this thread was bumped by someone and I haven't said my bit yet, Steve Irwin was piratically the reason i got into snakes, I seen him on TV many many times and was very upset that he passed on, snakes used to scare the monkeys out of me, but watching his shows built up my confidence, now I'm not saying that there are times when I'm still a little nervous, but scared? no way. Steve Irwin educated many people, me being one of them people, he was a good man and should never ever be spoken bad of, I don't blame the sting ray for killing Steve, as yes he probably was in its area, and I'm sure Steve himself would not blame the ray, it was an accident, its amazing that he lived as long as he did with all the crazy things he's done in his life, not much is spoken about him anymore, since most people have moved on, but I'm sure he will always be remember by many people, I dentally will not forget that crazy Australian man :p
 
Irelands-favourite said:
on the first page i thought it was funny when some person was talking about the red spitter wasting its precious venom. Snakes constantly produce venom in their "VENOM GLANDS" lol
Well, venomous species anyway :grin01:
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Now if you did your research you have found out that venomous snakes don't make venom that fast. It is not like your Silvia glands. It takes a lot of energy to make venom, depleting the snakes body of nutrition. If that was the case then they would milk snakes a few times a day or at least every day for anti venom. that was unnecessary stress on the poor snake. Venom is made and then stored, it is not made continuously in large volume. If you paid attention to the progame Steve himself explained that the cobras venom is precious and that they don't waste their venom, also that it takes a lot of the snakes energy to make the venom.
 
I was so sad when he died. For every one animal that he stressed a little, he probly got 10 kids into protecting wildlife. Thats gotta mean something!
 
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