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Taken a turn for the worst. I need help/advice..

if you are all talking about me, please dont be scared to use my name. i actually 'joined' a while ago. but logged off and forgot my password. thats why i dont log of any site, i forget my passwords. as this is a new computer, i thought it easier to reregister. and please, you all dont know the story behind this. but im not going to reply on this thread again, i only came on to say, i have not JUST joined. i was here a while ago.
 
enigma said:
if you are all talking about me, please dont be scared to use my name. i actually 'joined' a while ago. but logged off and forgot my password. thats why i dont log of any site, i forget my passwords. as this is a new computer, i thought it easier to reregister. and please, you all dont know the story behind this. but im not going to reply on this thread again, i only came on to say, i have not JUST joined. i was here a while ago.
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I don't think anyone's afraid to use your name. Enigma, enigma, enigma! See? :grin01: I don't know if you've read every post in this thread, but there are a few people who have posted little or nothing outside of this thread. I don't think any comments were directed at you, or at least not you alone.

:-offtopic Your old profile could have been fixed...
 
yes i have followed this thread with interest. i didnt know whether my old account could be fixed, i normally log on then just dont log off. i accidentally logged off though. no matter. and if i couldnt log back on under my old account i didnt know if i would be able to email or pm anyone. it just seemed easier to start again.
 
kathylove said:
a number of participants in this thread are not regular CS contributors or long term members here.
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I think quite a few members from other UK forums came over here to follow this thread - the whole "virus outbreak" thing and other details would have seemed of importance to people who really have little other reason to visit a US based corn snake centric site.

Once the results are posted and people know more of what is going on, then I imagine anyone whose interest is only in ensuring that there is not some sort of virus outbreak, and not in talking about corn snakes, will disappear again from this forum ...
 
I didn't have anyone in particular in mind in my last post. I have read through the thread, but not actually studied it carefully. I got the impression that several people (I can't remember exactly how many, and I could be wrong - maybe there are not any) were not regular posters here, but came here mostly to post just in this thread. That is fine by me, if it helps to resolve a situation. And I can certainly understand why everyone is upset over the possibilities, uncertainties, etc. I can see points on all sides, and certainly am sympathetic to both people who lost animals, or those who feel their animals may or may not be at risk, and are worried. Maybe some said things they wish they hadn't - I don't really know. I don't want to comment much on this thread itself because I can see valid points on all sides, and I am not involved closely enough to study the situation well enough to make any judgments. And my opinion as an outsider isn't needed here anyway. My only concern is that if this one thread becomes too volatile and is causing anyone to be especially upset, that it does not taint the whole site as being a disagreeable place to be.

There have been other threads that have been argumentative at times as well, although they usually do not draw in new people just for the particular thread. But no matter how high emotions may run on a particular thread, that does not mean that the site in general is not a great community place to spend time together.

I do wish the best to everyone involved, and hope all is resolved as well and as quickly as possible.
 
enigma said:
if you are all talking about me, please dont be scared to use my name. i actually 'joined' a while ago. but logged off and forgot my password. thats why i dont log of any site, i forget my passwords. as this is a new computer, i thought it easier to reregister. and please, you all dont know the story behind this. but im not going to reply on this thread again, i only came on to say, i have not JUST joined. i was here a while ago.
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Now that I realise who you actually are Lynne, No I am not talking about you. I am quite shocked at your behaviour on this thread and the RFUK one. Infact, I am rather annoyed at you... Harrassing myself and Lynn to go to YOUR vet just because you wanted us to? Even when Lynn gave you her phone number, and told you to phone her personally you did not. You explained in a PM this was because you had friends over that evening and that you had your own life. You then said that if Lynn did not take her animals to YOUR vet, she must have something to hide. This my dear is harrassment.

When Lynn explained and appologised to you, for not being able to meet your demands (she also explained she has her own life, kids etc) you became increasingly nasty and bitchy on RFUK. You then proceeded to lie on that thread about what I had said you in PM's, and later denied this. Lynn and myself have both kept all PM's both from our inbox and outbox regarding your wishes and demands.

The tests are being carried out by our herp vet, and the autopsy is complete. Why on earth would either of us pay more money to have YOUR vet do the exact same things? At the stage that you asked us to take the animals to your vet, the sick animals were already in critical care. More invasive and non necessary procedures carrried out on them would have only made their health worse. You can be slanderous towards The Lawrie Practice all you want Lynne, but this has to stop.

I appreciated your support at the beginning, and I do not know what made you turn and run the other way. I am indeed shocked...

For a womam of your age, with grown up children of her own, I would have expected a more mature and consistant approach to the whole senario.
 
lol. if i wanted to hide who i was would i have poated my pics. no i dont think so. you are becoming paranoid, and getting personal. something you didnt want if i remember. if you wish to change your mind let me know. you know fine i did not bully anyone into using my vet. she was moaning cause hers wouldnt do the tests she wanted, bloods if i remember. and i offered her my vets number and a lift, so do not twist things. you want my address to come here and sort this out, pm me and you can have it. am in all day tomorrow. and i have lynns number, but you told me NOT to speak to her, only to you. hide from you, why would i!!!
 
enigma said:
lol. if i wanted to hide who i was would i have poated my pics. no i dont think so. you are becoming paranoid, and getting personal. something you didnt want if i remember. if you wish to change your mind let me know. you know fine i did not bully anyone into using my vet. she was moaning cause hers wouldnt do the tests she wanted, bloods if i remember. and i offered her my vets number and a lift, so do not twist things. you want my address to come here and sort this out, pm me and you can have it. am in all day tomorrow. and i have lynns number, but you told me NOT to speak to her, only to you. hide from you, why would i!!!
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I advised you to ask me all questions regarding WINDSOR and NOT Lynn as it was not her snake and she didn't know what was going on! I told everyone the same thing. Just like I wouldn't have been able to answer many questions about Shug or Elysium... Now if you want me to post screenshots of every message I have ever sent you so be it. I am NOT lying about anything in this whole senario.
 
i never once said to lynn i had my own life. ii would help anyone who needed it. and i never once mentioned the name of your vet, but you just did. i couldnt say anything to her, as i did have visitors, then you pmed me and told me not to speak to her. there are a lot of folk you count as freinds who are saying things behind your backs. but do not twist things that never happened. i offered lynn my vets number and she told me to pm her it. she said she didnt drive, so i said if she wanted to go i would make sure she got a lift. why did my attitude change. because you tried to twist everything i said, then pmed me threatening me if i didnt go on a forum and retract a post i wrote. no one threatens me!!!! least of all a person who constantly cries wolf.
 
enigma said:
i never once said to lynn i had my own life. ii would help anyone who needed it. and i never once mentioned the name of your vet, but you just did. i couldnt say anything to her, as i did have visitors, then you pmed me and told me not to speak to her. there are a lot of folk you count as freinds who are saying things behind your backs. but do not twist things that never happened. i offered lynn my vets number and she told me to pm her it. she said she didnt drive, so i said if she wanted to go i would make sure she got a lift. why did my attitude change. because you tried to twist everything i said, then pmed me threatening me if i didnt go on a forum and retract a post i wrote. no one threatens me!!!! least of all a person who constantly cries wolf.
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Ok Lynne, this is what needs to happen. Here are all the messages I have EVER written to you.

Originally Posted by Montage_Morphs
Lynne, you will know the results although I would like to do it face to face. I am sure you can understand why.

Lynn does not want to post her results as she is under extreme stress and pressure - so much so that she took an epileptic fit today. This cannot be shared with others, and she has missed her last 3 hospital appointments due to running snakes back and forward to the vet.

Lynn is still awake although very distressed, she says its ok if you want to call her just now.

rgds elle


Sent by Lynn
am not getting at you or lynn, but people are waiting to hear. i meant to call earlier and got bloody visitors, i will call tomorrow though. and getting ill will not help her snakes. look if you two need anything let me know. speak tomorrow.


Thanks Lynne. The results will be available - just not on RFUK.

rgds elle

Originally Posted by Montage_Morphs
Lynn I looked through my sent messages to you and I can not find a single piece of evidence to say you shoul NOT contact Lynn. So can you please correct your statments on the forum. Or I will post our private messages.

I said it would be easier to contact me directly as its MY snakes autopsy results. Jeeeez

elle

i have that message in my stored messages. so you want to keep this going do what you will. thats the last im saying on this. but do not threaten me please, cause i wont be threatened. i tried to help by giving my vets number, and it was ignored, as far as im concerned the matter is closed.


So Lynne, tell me where I said not to contact Lynn, and where I threatned you?
 
The writing in purple is your reply to MY PM's... the black writing is what I wrote. I fail to see where the confusion is... I also fail to see where I have threatened you, or where I ever told you never to contact Lynn (Klootie).

If you find any mistakes in the copying, I can always post screenshots... they don't lie.

I will not post the threatning PM's I have just recieved from you as they are obviously deeply personal, although it is completely unncessary, and I am not going to put up with these accusations!
 
you have missed some of yours to me out, thats where the confusion lies. now i already stated i wasnt coming back on here, but i also will not stand by and have you call me a liar, which is what you are doing. so please stop.
 
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I dont often do this...

I am not often mature and calm when I post if there is an emotion fueling my words..... BUT for some reason after reading EVRY pm i have had during this situation... going over both threads and all emails ( which took me HOURS) I realise one thing...

THIS whole thing is pathetic... no matter what side you stand on.. or whos corner you are in... none of us have managed this situation with dignity or maturity... whether we are teenagers or grannies...


I like to think of myself as a forgiving person and a spiritual person... I have been neither the last few weeks... for that I am annoyed at myself... and only I can change that.....

it is definately time I realised that arguing on the internet is a pathetic distraction from reality..

surely I must have something better to do.. surely there are other threads that are informative and interesting on this forum. AND if i find none then surely playing my guitar or writing poetry would be a far better and more fulfilling pass-time than this.


I no longer care who is right or wrong.... no longer care what has been said or hasnt.. no longer care if all the people I have met that keep snakes this year dislike me... they did not matter before i met them and they certainly dont now...

For some reason I have a sense of peace today... regardles of whether my snakes live or die.. or who is right or wrong.. I wil accept the fate and learn from the situation....



I have been guilty of emotional dramatic posting... if i DO NOT learn from this... i have learned nothing... but i have not lied....


The pathetic.... HE SAID... SHE SAID.... NO I DIDNT... is really tantamount to playground madness.... I for one need to back away from the whole thing and actually remeber what makes me happy in life...

My kids... my animals... playing my guitar and my close friends and family..

if i spent half the time doing what makes me happy the last 4 weeks instead of wasting time posting to people who dont care a jot about me or my animals , i would probably have coped with this whole scenario much better... But sometimes it is time to let go.. to stop trying to be right..

letting go and walking away is one of the most powerful things a person can do in a no win situation..

i dont want to be 65 and still posting on this thread.. BUT BUT BUT and if i continue i can see it going that way .....

This is a fabulous forum ... Id like to take time to look around it and not get caught in this madness anymore...




this was about snakes...NOT people... Widnsor is dead.. and no matter what anyone thinks of elle she IS and WAS heartbroken.... my two snakes are still ill... and no matter what the reasons for their ilness are I stil continue to feel concerned about that fact.... but it shouldnt be taking my life up on a forum arguing and justifying myself to people who blatantly do not give a jot about me or my animals...

IM bored of it now... not of the animals, not of the love I have for them but of petty cat fighting... some of which i have been involved in and for that i am sorry...

So yes..... a bit of peace and quiet and singing with my kids.. dancing silly round my house and getting back to normality would be great..

and thats just what im going to do...
 
i did not send you threatening pm's. i asked you to not mention my children as my youngest was killed last year, and it hurts, i also said if you want to see ugly then keep mentioning them. i told you i had kept the messages you sent me on rfuk, and explained i offered lynn my vets number and she asked me to pm her it. she then said she didnt drive, so i offered her a lift. i then told you i dont lie, i make a very good freind, but if you want to make an enemy of me, then im a good enemy too. but i think we should keep these to pm messages do you not?
or are you once again trying for a sympathy vote. im so sorry windsor had to die, and lynns snakes are ill, but the fact is, you called me a liar then sent me a pm telling me to go on rfuk and TELL everyone i was a liar. thats when i got defensive. because im not a liar, and i wont be branded one. and why the hell would i post pics of MY snakes on here, if i were hiding. now anything else to say pm me it.
 
enigma said:
you have missed some of yours to me out, thats where the confusion lies. now i already stated i wasnt coming back on here, but i also will not stand by and have you call me a liar, which is what you are doing. so please stop.
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Please prove me wrong Lynne...
 
enigma said:
i did not send you threatening pm's. i asked you to not mention my children as my youngest was killed last year, and it hurts, i also said if you want to see ugly then keep mentioning them. i told you i had kept the messages you sent me on rfuk, and explained i offered lynn my vets number and she asked me to pm her it. she then said she didnt drive, so i offered her a lift. i then told you i dont lie, i make a very good freind, but if you want to make an enemy of me, then im a good enemy too. but i think we should keep these to pm messages do you not?
or are you once again trying for a sympathy vote. im so sorry windsor had to die, and lynns snakes are ill, but the fact is, you called me a liar then sent me a pm telling me to go on rfuk and TELL everyone i was a liar. thats when i got defensive. because im not a liar, and i wont be branded one. and why the hell would i post pics of MY snakes on here, if i were hiding. now anything else to say pm me it.
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I merely mentioned the fact you had grown up children to illustrate the fact that I am probably younger than them, and that you are a grown mature woman! I honestly do not understand why you have reacted in this way. But I do understand this it is pointless... and distracting from the fact that this is about the animals, and not about personal relationships with so called friends.

I fail to see how this is TELLING you to call yourself a liar on a publiuc forum. I merely asked you to consider rephrasing your setance on RFUK which clearly stated I TOLD you not to contact Lynn etc etc.

"Lynn I looked through my sent messages to you and I can not find a single piece of evidence to say you shoul NOT contact Lynn. So can you please correct your statments on the forum. Or I will post our private messages.

I said it would be easier to contact me directly as its MY snakes autopsy results. Jeeeez"

elle "
 
Did you get a chance to find out from your vet how much longer the results are going to take to get back to you?

also have you looked into making them a PDF file as this would save you a few hours typing... most modern photocopiers have a function for turning paperwork into a PDF if you dont have access to a scanner
 
oh and young gun is talking me through copying and pasting, but it could take time as me and computers dont get on that well.
 
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