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That will never happen in America

It's kind of like running from the bulls, in Spain, Portugal or Mexico with your eyes closed! Eventually, your gonna get a horn, right where you don't want it!

Wayne

Wayne, where do you want it?


Nova, Say something constructive. Are my facts straight? Is Obama spending taxpayers money at a record breaking rate. Has anyone ever spent as much money as Obama. Is Congress voting on programs and bills initiated by Obama? If not, where do they originate?
 
I don't follow. I pointed out two errors in the original claims and asked a question because I didn't understand a third. I'm not criticizing, just clarifying.
 
Are my facts straight? Is Obama spending taxpayers money at a record breaking rate. Has anyone ever spent as much money as Obama. Is Congress voting on programs and bills initiated by Obama? If not, where do they originate?
 
Are my facts straight? Is Obama spending taxpayers money at a record breaking rate. Has anyone ever spent as much money as Obama. Is Congress voting on programs and bills initiated by Obama? If not, where do they originate?

Wade, I was so confused by this. Totally. So I went back to the OP and realized that the first one was "What if I had told you in October 2008, before the last presidential election, that before Barack Obama's first 100 days in office, the federal government would be in control of both the mortgage and the banking industries?"

I totally misread that. I thought you were saying that Obama did that within his first 100 days, but it says before his first 100 days. Which is accurate. My apologies. I didn't read it right and I should have made sure.

But I'm still wondering about that gun ban. Is that part of your OP accurate? Is Obama trying to ban all guns except automatics? I mean, I honestly have no idea. It looks like a typo to me, which is why I asked.
 
Wade, I was so confused by this. Totally. So I went back to the OP and realized that the first one was "What if I had told you in October 2008, before the last presidential election, that before Barack Obama's first 100 days in office, the federal government would be in control of both the mortgage and the banking industries?"

I totally misread that. I thought you were saying that Obama did that within his first 100 days, but it says before his first 100 days. Which is accurate. My apologies. I didn't read it right and I should have made sure.

But I'm still wondering about that gun ban. Is that part of your OP accurate? Is Obama trying to ban all guns except automatics? I mean, I honestly have no idea. It looks like a typo to me, which is why I asked.
Now you've got me wondering about the same thing. And googling.
 
umm... what?

Especially considering it was under the Republican government that the US government purchased $700 billion in bad mortgage backed securities, and under the Republicans that Auto bailout was proposed and passed.

1. I dont get how democrats can be against the bail out and be for the porkulus package!
2. The bailout was passed in a democrat majority!

Um.... What? Nothing about the big 3 even happened before Obama took office.. Oh, and that was a mistake, i guess i did forget something.. Isn't it weird that the Companies that took the bailout went bankrupt and the one that declined it is doing ok now? personally i think that it is because of all of the strings attached......
But still, i think you have your timelines a little off..
 
1. I dont get how democrats can be against the bail out and be for the porkulus package!
2. The bailout was passed in a democrat majority!

Um.... What? Nothing about the big 3 even happened before Obama took office.. Oh, and that was a mistake, i guess i did forget something.. Isn't it weird that the Companies that took the bailout went bankrupt and the one that declined it is doing ok now? personally i think that it is because of all of the strings attached......
But still, i think you have your timelines a little off..

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16740.html

It wasn't long before Obama took office, but it was still before.
 
Cornsnake124, Nova is right. I think you are confusing the big auto bailout...with the bank bailouts.

EDIT : actually it looks like both bailouts occurred during the lame duck period of '08.

Self-reminder : I usually stay out of politics. :sidestep:
 
Are my facts straight? Is Obama spending taxpayers money at a record breaking rate. Has anyone ever spent as much money as Obama. Is Congress voting on programs and bills initiated by Obama? If not, where do they originate?

Come on Mr. Nova, that is a pretty simple straight forward question that you are ignoring.
 
The answer is, I don't know. I don't know about the United States' economic history, so I can't say whether or not the current administration is spending more money than any before. As far as the spending bills go, I guess? I mean, the only one I know of currently is the health care bill and that was part of Obama's platform.

How does any of that relate to what I said, though?
 
On the gun thing, it only reads confusing because gun lingo is kinda specialized like any other serious way of life. The background is that Clinton's administration started calling semi-automatic weapons (one round fired per trigger pull) "assault weapons. Assault weapons are fully automatic weapons ("machine guns") used by military all over the world. They tend to be the medium sized calibers in rifle form. The 2A guarantees us the right to have military weapons, but the traitors in Washington know that the average citizen can be duped into thinking these are dangerous tools in and of themselves. They know they can get laws passed on semi-autos if they convince people they are really passing laws about fully autos. New ownership of fully autos have been almost outlawed since '69 and practically outlawed since '89. The door has closed, unless you are a cop. Since registration started, there have only been TWO crimes committed with legally owned fully autos - and both of those were done by cops who are exempt from registration and tax procedures. Legal fully autos are not contributing to crime.

Anyway, what the "assault weapon ban" did was ban SEMI-AUTOS (on round per trigger pull), but called them assault weapons so people THOUGHT they had just banned "dangerous" machine guns. In fact, they didn't ban anything except rifles with certain features. An AR was still legal - you just could have more than one of the following: an adjustable stock, a grip for the right hand, a threaded barrel, or a lug for attachment of "toys." The guns themselves (except a few pointed exceptions) still functioned and fired the same. In essence, they tried to ban scary LOOKING guns by making people think they were real "scary guns."

That clear up some of the confusion, I hope. Obama wants to re-instate that silly ban that did NOTHING to reduce crime, increase it, and put the ban umbrella over every possible gun in Amerika than he can. Like any good socialist, he wants his serfs unarmed so that they can't resist what he decides to do TO them. Doing something FOR them (even the token lip service he gives now) will stop as soon as he disarms them.

I mean, the only one I know of currently is the health care bill and that was part of Obama's platform.

Actually, his platform was something along the lines of National HealthCare would be "extreme." I don't remember the exact words, but his platform was that he would NOT consider doing exactly what he is doing now. Either way, he's still a lying conman. :(

Nova is fine. It may be a girl's name, but that's cool.

If you want to pontificate, don't you think you should ID yourself if you want the statements to be given any actual weight by your readers? Anonymous statements just show someone isn't proud enough to be associated with them. Obviously, your choice and you must have your reasons.
KJ
 
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The debt and spending are intrinsically bad but I am more aghast at the socialist swing! :shrugs::shrugs::shrugs:
 
The debt and spending are intrinsically bad but I am more aghast at the socialist swing! :shrugs::shrugs::shrugs:

INTO THE CAMPS WITH YOU!

That type of negative statements are no longer allowed in the new amerika. You're on the list for the camps, mister! Watch yourself!

(Has anyone posted a link to this video yet: http://sendables.jibjab.com/originals/hes_barack_obama ? I must admit, I have watched it a few times...and I laugh more each time.)
 

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I am so glad that I live on a few acres where I can bury things that I will need when true Americans have finally had enough and fight to have the government that was laid out in the Constitution reinstated.
 
The answer is, I don't know.
Here, this may help. Google is an amazing tool!

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Obamas-trillions-dwarf-Bushs-dangerous-spending.html

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/

There was another report that I had read last spring concerning Obama's spending. I just spent 30 minutes looking for it, but couldn't find it as I can't recall the title to the article. The gist of the article was that the soonest Bush spent his budget (and run out of money) any year he was in office was October. Obama had spent this year's budget by I believe April. :shrugs: Wish I could find that article. I will keep looking.

D80
 
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