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The American Cornsnake Registry

Anyone who produces a clutch can register as a breeder. :)

As for registering from unregistered stock, yes, you can. The line has to start somewhere. :)

Go here: Registration Page and sign her up using one of the versions of the form under "Use this form for all other corns: " which is for registering a snake not from registered stock. If you have a snake with BOTH parents registered, you use the forms above that.
 
Hurley said:
Anyone who produces a clutch can register as a breeder. :)
If you plan on breeding, and already have a name picked out for your "breeding house" name, you can go ahead and sign up as a breeder. This will also allow you to get a minibanner into the system right away.

If you haven't produced anything yet, keep in mind that the "company name" or "breeding house name" is fixed unless you use your own name for that field.

That is: if you sign up now as Joe Schmoe at "Super Cool Corns" (breeder #51) and then next year you decide you want to call yourself "Awesome Dude Corns," the new name will go under a brand new entry in the database. Once breeder #51 has a "company name" breeder #51's name will never ever change in the database.

(This allows people to search for the name they bought their corns under... if you sell a bunch as Super Cool Corns and that's the name people have with their snakes, then it would be lame if they came back to the registry 5 years later and there was no such name, even though they have certificates saying they're from Super Cool Corns...)

However: if you are not sure what you want as a company name, you can use your own name as the company name, or just leave it blank. Then if you later decide you want to "company-ify" your name, you can switch that to "Super Cool Awesome Dude Corns" (which will then become the permanent name for that Breeder ID#)
 
Questions about dead/sold parents

I just registered as a breeder and intend to register all of my pre-2005 corns (about 38 of them, I think -- I don't keep count any more!). Anyway, I have some very specific questions about registering some of them.

1) I want my "pedigrees" of some of my 2004s to show the colors of the parents, so I assume I have to register the parents first, right? What if one of the parents is dead? For instance, I have two 2004 holdbacks whose mother died this past February. I want her colors reflected on my holdbacks' pedigrees, but that means I'll need to register the dead mother first, right? Can I do so, even if she is no longer alive? If not, how do I get her colors on my holdbacks' papers? (P.S. In some horse-breed registries, the registry requests notification when a registered horse dies -- do you intend to do that as well?)

2) With some of my other holdbacks, I no longer own the sire (I sold him last fall to a local reptile store, so I don't know who owns the snake now). But I want the sire's colors on my holdbacks' pedigree -- can I still register the sold sire, even though I no longer own him?

3) Several snakes in my collection have come from breeders who have already registered their snakes, but I have no idea which of their snakes were the parents of my snakes. Since I'd like for my snakes' pedigrees to go back as far as possible, how do I find out, at this point, who my snakes' parents were, whether those parents have been registered or not, and what those parents' names/registration numbers are? I'm guessing I need to contact the breeder for that info, right? However, for some of the big breeders, I can envision that it may take a huge amount of their time trying to respond to requests such as these. I hate to do that -- is there any other way?

4) Some of my holdbacks may be hets for genes that are not being visually expressed (for instance, some are 66% likely to be het motley). Also, I have no way of determining the parents' colors of some of the snakes I own (primarily those I've purchased from a reptile store), so some of them may be het for genes that will be revealed only after breeding. Will we be able to amend the genotypes of our registered snakes as hets become known through breeding trials?

Thanks for putting so much effort and time into this registry! You two are truly awesome!

Liz
 
I also have a question...

I registered my name and some of my stock...but I have yet to receive a confirmation email or be placed on the breeder page???
 
What if one of the parents is dead? For instance, I have two 2004 holdbacks whose mother died this past February.
Yep, we have an "inactive" flag. :) (Thanks, Susan!) That could mean any number of things, but the basis of this flag is "it will not produce any more offspring." The idea is for the owner to be able to set this flag. If the snake is sold, it is not "inactive" but has only transferred ownership and can still produce offspring that are related to the offspring hatched under a previous owner.

This brings up an interesting point... If the snake is sold by person A to person B, and B decides to leave the snake's name as it is, and leave the owner as "A", then we should be able to at least allow the person (A) to change it in the database with an email request. Otherwise when they are searching for snakes owned by them, they might be finding stuff they've sold long ago. We'll have to figure out exactly how to handle this.

I want her colors reflected on my holdbacks' pedigrees, but that means I'll need to register the dead mother first, right? Can I do so, even if she is no longer alive?
Yep, snakes that are deceased can be entered so that they show up on pedigrees. If they are registered as deceased or inactive, a certificate won't be issued, of course. (This will be added to the reg forms.)

2) With some of my other holdbacks, I no longer own the sire (I sold him last fall to a local reptile store, so I don't know who owns the snake now). But I want the sire's colors on my holdbacks' pedigree -- can I still register the sold sire, even though I no longer own him?
If you don't own the snake, you can create a dummy record for him. This would allow you to put in a picture and his genotype, etc. so they'd show up on the pedigree. (It's possible that the new owner could register it under a different ID# and nobody would ever know they're the same snake, but it's better than no information at all.)

3) Several snakes in my collection have come from breeders who have already registered their snakes, but I have no idea which of their snakes were the parents of my snakes. Since I'd like for my snakes' pedigrees to go back as far as possible, how do I find out, at this point, who my snakes' parents were, whether those parents have been registered or not, and what those parents' names/registration numbers are? I'm guessing I need to contact the breeder for that info, right? However, for some of the big breeders, I can envision that it may take a huge amount of their time trying to respond to requests such as these. I hate to do that -- is there any other way?
If you have no parent info, we can't do anything on this end. If you got internal parent ID#s from the breeder, you can search the registry for them. I know that Kathy and Don are using their internal ID numbers as the Registered Names, so you would be able to find them if they're in there. For example, if you got it from Don and the mother is "10" just do a search by Registered Name for *10* and "SMR 10" would show up among the results.

If it's not in the results, we're currently making "dummy records" as placeholders for those individuals, so supply what information you do have, and we'll make and attach those dummy records to your snakes. (The pedigrees are probably not going to be a lot of use during the initial period when everyone is adding everything in random order, but next year and beyond they should get a lot more interesting.)

4) Some of my holdbacks may be hets for genes that are not being visually expressed (for instance, some are 66% likely to be het motley). Also, I have no way of determining the parents' colors of some of the snakes I own (primarily those I've purchased from a reptile store), so some of them may be het for genes that will be revealed only after breeding. Will we be able to amend the genotypes of our registered snakes as hets become known through breeding trials?
Yes, pretty much anything on the record can be amended. Gender, genotype, notes, name, etc etc. This does require physically sending in the certificate (for proof of ownership) and if it requires a new certificate issued, it's a small fee to cover the cost of the new certificate.
 
blckkat said:
I also have a question...

I registered my name and some of my stock...but I have yet to receive a confirmation email or be placed on the breeder page???
I hope to be caught up with everything by the end of this weekend. :)
 
Hurley said:
We have no problem with non-USA residents registering their snakes, but we don't want to step on any toes. We'll leave registering out of country snakes to those future registries. We made this an American registry to leave the way open for the UK or Canada or anyone else willing to take it on to start their own registry. At this time, we'll just have to limit registration of snakes to American snakes or those from American registered stock.

The gene pool in other countries doesn't really converge with the gene pool that will be registered in this registry, I guess. A European Cornsnake Registry would then be able to keep records together of that gene pool. (Or a Swedish registry or whatever eventually gets started.)

Charles and Connie, let me congratulate you on a fine piece of work here! I'm chuffed to pieces to see that you've managed to get this up and running. With any luck the register that we're working on over here in the UK will be every bit as successfull as I hope yours to be. :cheers:
 
Cornfan said:
With any luck the register that we're working on over here in the UK will be every bit as successfull as I hope yours to be. :cheers:
Thanks! I wanted to ask, are you guys planning on making a UK registry, or a European registry? Quite a few people have asked about that. :)

I hope you guys have something as easily accessible as this, it makes it so much more interesting to know that you can go look anything up for free at any time... no waiting, no "I didn't get as much information as I expected" etc. And wherever bloodlines cross the oceans, we could provide hyperlinks between records (or some sort of direct or indirect pointers) on both sites. :D
 
I was hoping you'd say that! lol I really feel strongly that this is a perfect opportunity to work together as a team across the world really. It would be truly fantastic to be able to have links across the oceans. I know through my own experiences of importing from the states that it's important for us to do this over here to strengthen and widen the bloodlines on this little island and we get a lot of our corn morphs from the USA and Europe. I've partnered up with another UK bod over here who is far more clued up on computer programming than I am and we're currently working on the exact requirements and back of house database as we speak. I see no reason whatsoever why ours shouldn't incorporate the rest of Europe as well so that we have an American registry and a European registry to start with. I know that South Africa's getting more and more clued up on the American snakes now and corns are becoming increasingly popular over there (far more than when I lived there 11 years ago now) and it would be great to see one pop up over there as well. A truly global scale with teams working together for the benefit of the hobby and the snakes. How exciting is that?!?! :crazy02: Once I've got the back-of-house issues sorted out, I'll get in touch with you guys and see how we can work forward in this
 
Am I retarded or something? To register my snows, I guess I just check both Amel and Anery Type A??? Sorry....maybe I am just missing something?
 
howiet4702 said:
Am I retarded or something? To register my snows, I guess I just check both Amel and Anery Type A??? Sorry....maybe I am just missing something?
Yep, snows are both amel and anery, and on the genotype section would have both boxes checked for those two genes. :)

(We didn't want to use trade names for combos as it would then get into "why don't you recognize this or that trade name but you do recognize some other trade name that I don't like...")
 
This has probably allready been asked but i didn't see a contact us type link except for by mail on the website. Or i just missed it.

Can you register your corns even if you don't plan on becoming a Breeder or at least a breeder doing more than just hobby type stuff?

My collection contains WC and CB corns. I wouldn't be able to supply age on the WC. Or any info on the parents or genetics on some of my CB corns ones bought at a pet store mostly. Is this ok?

What would the cost of registration be on my collection.
2 WC I guess at between 2 and 3 years old??? Maybe... I am sure there at least 2 years old.

1 CB Normal 2004 hatch Unknown genetics or parents Pet Store bought.

1 CB Cream het stripe 2004 hatch from Ridgeway Reptiles unknown parents.

1 WC 2004 hatch or at least on my best guess. It is about the same size as my other 2004.

1 Snow 2005 hatch from a breeder i cant think of at the moment.

2 of those i am not sure of the sex is that ok?

I know this is an older thread. But i couldn't think of a better place to get answers. Thanks in advance to any answers you can give me.
 
cowboyman13 said:
This has probably allready been asked but i didn't see a contact us type link except for by mail on the website. Or i just missed it.

Can you register your corns even if you don't plan on becoming a Breeder or at least a breeder doing more than just hobby type stuff?

My collection contains WC and CB corns. I wouldn't be able to supply age on the WC. Or any info on the parents or genetics on some of my CB corns ones bought at a pet store mostly. Is this ok?

What would the cost of registration be on my collection.
2 WC I guess at between 2 and 3 years old??? Maybe... I am sure there at least 2 years old.

1 CB Normal 2004 hatch Unknown genetics or parents Pet Store bought.

1 CB Cream het stripe 2004 hatch from Ridgeway Reptiles unknown parents.

1 WC 2004 hatch or at least on my best guess. It is about the same size as my other 2004.

1 Snow 2005 hatch from a breeder i cant think of at the moment.

2 of those i am not sure of the sex is that ok?

I know this is an older thread. But i couldn't think of a better place to get answers. Thanks in advance to any answers you can give me.


Snakes hatched before 2005 are free to regiser until the end of the year. I think it's $5 or so to register 2005 hatchlings. You can register even if you're not a breeder. I've already registered most of my snakes.

It's okay if you have missing information---I do as well. The idea is to get snakes into the system and down the road people are able to look back on family trees and such. Nobody is expected to have a complete genetic breakdown 5 generations back of their stock.
 
Thanks Joe that clears up alot for me.
Last question is there an email address to submit pictures and the filled out forms to?
 
Photographs - A photograph showing the entire dorsal pattern, or at least to the vent, is required. This will be shown online, and will be used on the registration certificate, and the pedigrees of any of this snake's offspring, so it must be high enough quality for someone to identify this particular snake just from the photograph. (Pictures taken with cellphones or webcams are not advised.)

If the snake is expressing any kind of pattern trait that affects the belly (Motley, Stripe, Diffused, or other) then a belly photo is also required. Otherwise, a second photo (showing the belly or any other part of the snake, such as a distinguishing saddle or head pattern) may be sumbitted. The second photo will only be viewable online and will not be included on any pedigrees or other printed ACR certificates.

Photo sizes from 640x480 to 800x600 are acceptable. ACR does not accept paper photos, they must be submitted in a digital format. Note that all photos will be resized to 800x600 for use with the online registry. Email photographs to [email protected]. Name the file using the Registered Name on the completed form, so that we know which pictures belong to which snakes.
 
Forms should be mailed in to:

ACR
PO BOX 56361
Chicago, IL 60656-0361


If you are registering over 10 animals during this grace period, you may request to use the online registration form (email us at [email protected]). If you would rather fill out the paper forms, just print them off and drop them in the mail to us. :) Please be sure the photos arrive before or at the same time as the registration papers to keep everything together.

With the number of registrants during this grace period, we are (quite expectedly) bogged down, so expect that it may take several weeks to get everyone's papers out to them. With the start of the new year, we expect things to slow down a little. :santa:
 
I've been dragging my feet on this but I'd like to at least register my ghosts, motleys and stripes before the end of the year. I was wondering how you guys take the ventral belly shots, I have noticed my snakes really hate to be upside down!
 
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