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Vegetarianism and the Environment

jpccusa said:
I never meant vegetarianism and veganism were CURE to the environmental problem. They are just HUGE helping hands.

Of course methane produced by cows are not the only greenhouse gas affecting the Earth. As you said, cow's methane is not even the biggest polluter, but while the biggest polluters don't find a way to solve the problem, why not help the environment by switching diets?

I still believe this is a valid claim.
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OK...I'm gonna humour this for a minute...

Hypothetically speaking, the global vegan campaign succeeds, and every person on the planet becomes a vegan...no more cows, no more pigs, no more chicken...nothing but soy protein, soy milk, soy bacon, vegetables and supplements. WAY beyond the ability of the global population, but...I'll humour it for the sake of argument...

Now...the world needs to exist on a diet of vegetation. So...where do we get enough vegetation? Where do we grow enough fruits, vegetables, soy-plants(whatever they are), and the myriad other vegetation we need?

In order to provide the world population with enough vegetation to replace meat in the diet, we simply cannot farm organically or naturally. It is an impossiblity. There is not enough land on the planet, even if we clear cut every forest for agriculture, to provide nutritional components for every person on the planet using natural, clean, environmentally friendly methods.

So...we need to turn to hydroponics, greenhouses, and creating agricultural opportunities by artifical means...aqueducts, sprinkler systems, massive quantities of chemical fertilizers(because there are no more cows to evacuate natural fertilizer), and a DRASTIC reduction of the global fresh water supply just to meet demand.

Once we figure out HOW to produce this much vegetation for consumption...it needs to get to the people. This means MASSIVE amounts of trucking, flying, shipping, and transporting of fresh vegetable matter across the globe PLUS tremendous amounts of freon and CO2/dry ice for rapid freezing before transporting just to keep people alive.

And we haven't even started to discuss the detrimental nature of soy processing, and vitamin and mineral supplements to make people healthy...

So no...I don't believe that vegetarianism or veganism are even remotely a healthy choice...for people OR the environment.

If the environment is the primary concern, the only REAL solution is to allow nature to put us back where we belong on the food chain, and to stop forcing people to stay alive beyond natural means through medical means. People are NOT supposed to live to be 80 and change. People are NOT suppose to be seperate from the food chain. Our medical technologies have expanded our means of survival FAR beyond what nature EVER intended for us to the point that our very existence is detrimental to itself. Just like any other animal population, we are growing to the point that we will, eventually, kill ourselves off...one way or the other.

But let's be realistic...the PLANET will continue to survive...LOOOOOOOOONG after we're gone from it...



(I think my "O" key is stuck too...;))
 
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