Warm, helpful thoughts needed!

[Khaman]

Rich I just picked up a few live pinks. I tryed to pm you but I am on my phone and I don't know if it worked. Call me when you read this and I will try to bring them to you.

 

[vetusvates]

Thanks, Eric!

I want to thank everyone again for all the thoughts and advice.

Wade, Lori, Nanci and Scott have been great! This site is lucky to have them.

I just changed the lil' guy's water. It may just be wishful thinking, but he seemed a little more aggressive. He has never striked at me. But when I reached in to get his water, he did coil up. Hopefully his next feeding attempt will be the one!

Who is Scott? And the reason I ask, is that everyone called me by my middle name, Scott, until my late thirties. Some major life changes/crises at 38, and I came out a better man, being called by my first name, Eric. So I just went with it.
I think I mention it in/on facebook.
Anyhoo, just asking who "Scott" was. Kinda freaky.
And why he ranks with Wade, Lori, and Nanci,....and not Eric. :laugh:

More importantly : how is your fasting wormlet coming along, Rich?

 

[Rich in KY]

Who is Scott? And the reason I ask, is that everyone called me by my middle name, Scott, until my late thirties. Some major life changes/crises at 38, and I came out a better man, being called by my first name, Eric. So I just went with it.
I think I mention it in/on facebook.
Anyhoo, just asking who "Scott" was. Kinda freaky.
And why he ranks with Wade, Lori, and Nanci,....and not Eric. :laugh:

More importantly : how is your fasting wormlet coming along, Rich?

Sorry to take so long to answer your question, Eric.

To answer your question, Scott = Khaman. He is local to me and was helping trying to locate some live pinks.

To update my wormlet, I received a HUGE preggo mouse from Wade on Friday night. Thanks again Wade! She gave birth that night. I offered my lil' guy a live freshly born, untouched pink. He did not go for it.

The next step is, I am going to scent a pink with an anole. I should receive a couple fresh from Florida today or tomorrow. Wish me luck!

 

[Nanci]

Rich, something else to think about is just a pinky head. That got Katie's stubborn greybands eating.

 

[Rich in KY]

Rich, something else to think about is just a pinky head. That got Katie's stubborn greybands eating.

Nanci, you think I should offer a pinky head scented with anoles for my next attempt?

 

[Nanci]

I guess it wouldn't hurt!! You know what they do with baby hoggies, hold the snake right behind the head and just press the mouse up against its mouth till it gives up and opens. Then the snake might just go ahead and eat, or you can gently feed it in.

 

[Rich in KY]

It is not looking good gor this lil' one.

I have tried everything I know. Yesterday I spent the better part of an hour teasing him trying to strike at a pink. He has no interest.

It makes me so sad to see such a beautiful lil' snake that won't eat and I am helpless.

 

[francka]

I'm sorry, this is so sad
Try not to give up... (I know it is not easy)

 

[francka]

Is the little one living in a big viv?
Maybe you can try to make him his home in a smaller viv or simply in a bigger plastic box, maybe he will fell safer in this way.
It is only an idea, I don't know if is useful...

 

[COerriccaRN]

Why don't you use a pinkie pump???

 

[Noename]

I don't know if I missed whether or not you tried this, I only skimmed the thread. But, have you left him in a smaller container overnight or something like that? With mine, especially for the first feed, I took a smaller critter carrier, put paper on three of four sides, and put her in with the pinkie nose to her. She had to sit in there for a good few minutes before eating it. I just walk away or make sure she can't see me until it's a good way down her mouth.

If you havent tried the brown bad thing or leaving him with the pink in a container overnight, I'd do that. And just walk away and not look at him for at least an hour.

Best of luck I hope things work out

 

[ceduke]

I'm sorry he's still being so stubborn. I hope you find the solution soon.

 

[Caryl]

I somehow missed this thread until now. I'm sending warm, helpful thoughts for the baby as requested. It's so ungodly frustrating when they just won't eat.

Have you tried moving the little one to another room or a different viv, jostling it a bit en route or even going for a drive first, then leaving it alone as if you'd just gotten it? There are reports of snakes that won't feed suddenly beginning to do so after being transported somewhere new. It's worth a shot, in my book.

I also want to send a hug and encouragement to you. Sometimes one just decides it's time, and eats as if that's what it's always done. I hope yours does that the next time you offer.

 

[wade]

Rich, how about an update?

 

[Rich in KY]

Is the little one living in a big viv?
Maybe you can try to make him his home in a smaller viv or simply in a bigger plastic box, maybe he will fell safer in this way.
It is only an idea, I don't know if is useful...

I am keeping him in a Sterlite shoebox. I also have kept him in a deli cup as well. Thanks for the ideas, though.

Why don't you use a pinkie pump???

I have used a pinky pump in the past. I do not believe that force feeding is always the best thing for a stubborn baby. The stress can cause problems or if you do not do it correctly, you could injure the snake.

Even if you do force the snake to eat that does not mean that you will get a feeding response from the snake in the future.

I have tried to tease feed him. But could not get him to strike.

I don't know if I missed whether or not you tried this, I only skimmed the thread. But, have you left him in a smaller container overnight or something like that? With mine, especially for the first feed, I took a smaller critter carrier, put paper on three of four sides, and put her in with the pinkie nose to her. She had to sit in there for a good few minutes before eating it. I just walk away or make sure she can't see me until it's a good way down her mouth.

If you havent tried the brown bad thing or leaving him with the pink in a container overnight, I'd do that. And just walk away and not look at him for at least an hour.

Best of luck I hope things work out

Thanks. These are all good ideas. All feeding attempts have been in a deli cup, covered with a paper towel and left overnight. This lil' guy is just stubborn.

I'm sorry he's still being so stubborn. I hope you find the solution soon.

Thanks. I hope so too.

 

[Rich in KY]

I somehow missed this thread until now. I'm sending warm, helpful thoughts for the baby as requested. It's so ungodly frustrating when they just won't eat.

Have you tried moving the little one to another room or a different viv, jostling it a bit en route or even going for a drive first, then leaving it alone as if you'd just gotten it? There are reports of snakes that won't feed suddenly beginning to do so after being transported somewhere new. It's worth a shot, in my book.

I also want to send a hug and encouragement to you. Sometimes one just decides it's time, and eats as if that's what it's always done. I hope yours does that the next time you offer.

Thanks for the idea. I will definitely try moving him to another room. Possibly I may take him for a ride around the block to see if that might help.

Rich, how about an update?

Wade, unfortunately not much to update. Just more refusals.

The latest attempts were an anole scented pink. Then I used some bedding from my new female mouse to scent a pink.

I will try something different tomorrow.

 

[francka]

I have my fingers cross for tomorrow

 

[LBoz]

Rich, have you tried rubbing the pink on some KFC grease? I'm dying to know if this actually works.

Good luck...let us know how it goes this time.

 

[vetusvates]

Rich, have you tried rubbing the pink on some KFC grease? I'm dying to know if this actually works.

I am too, Lori.

I had trouble with a couple of new babies last night, so I used a pin and brained the pinks AND poked holes elsewhere. All kinds of juicy smells flowing. AND I left TWO of these per snakelet in the smallest deli cups. So the two little snakes could not move around much without bumping into one of the two well-aerated and fragrant pinks. Each snake ate one of the pinks.
I have plenty of piggish clean up snakes to dispose of the two remaining obstacle-course pinkies.

 

[haydnrobinson]

I somehow missed this thread until now. I'm sending warm, helpful thoughts for the baby as requested. It's so ungodly frustrating when they just won't eat.

Have you tried moving the little one to another room or a different viv, jostling it a bit en route or even going for a drive first, then leaving it alone as if you'd just gotten it? There are reports of snakes that won't feed suddenly beginning to do so after being transported somewhere new. It's worth a shot, in my book.

I also want to send a hug and encouragement to you. Sometimes one just decides it's time, and eats as if that's what it's always done. I hope yours does that the next time you offer.

This worked with our baby corn, he wouldn't eat at my girlfriend's house so we moved him to mine after many refusals and he started eating perfectly the first time we tried him in the new house. He's now moved back to my girlfriends house and eats fine there too. We do still cover up his feeding tub however, and still brain the mouse- just until he's a proper established feeder. So maybe the movement is actually a factor