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What is the strangest\meanest thing you have ever heard a snake hater say?

Emanon said:
Confusion?? LOL Quick change over very few days
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Clarification:
I was born a Catholic Christian
went to Catholic elementary school
went to Catholic highschool, my mom even taught religion class there...

But later when I was going to get my confirmation I was astonished at most of the intolerance Catholicism had for other religions. I am fascinated by the cultures, beliefs, and traditions of other people. So I therefore have decided that the best would be to remain open minded to other religions, without judgement.
So, I guess you can say that I AM Christian because that is the way I was born and raised, but my thoughts and beliefs are Agnostic. Agnostic is merely believing that there is a higher power, you just can't prove nor disprove what it is, therefore there is no "true" religion because you will never know which is the correct one.
 
I really thought agnostic meant; to not believe there is a god. And an atheist believes there is no god. Or the other way around, I always mix them up... if agnostic means; higher power but don't know what/who it is, then loads of people are agnostic!
 
Blutengel said:
I really thought agnostic meant; to not believe there is a god. And an atheist believes there is no god. Or the other way around, I always mix them up... if agnostic means; higher power but don't know what/who it is, then loads of people are agnostic!
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World History(quote from [email protected]/History):An agnostic does not deny the existence of God and heaven but holds that one cannot know for certain whether or not they exist. The term agnostic was fittingly coined by the 19th-century British scientist Thomas H. Huxley, who believed that only material phenomena were objects of exact knowledge. He made up the word from the prefix a-, meaning “without, not,” as in amoral, and the noun Gnostic. Gnostic is related to the Greek word gnsis, “knowledge,” which was used by early Christian writers to mean “higher, esoteric knowledge of spiritual things” hence, Gnostic referred to those with such knowledge. In coining the term agnostic, Huxley was considering as “Gnostics” a group of his fellow intellectuals“ists,” as he called themwho had eagerly embraced various doctrines or theories that explained the world to their satisfaction. Because he was a “man without a rag of a label to cover himself with,” Huxley coined the term agnostic for himself, its first published use being in 1870.
 
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Arcanefate said:
So, I guess you can say that I AM Christian because that is the way I was born and raised, but my thoughts and beliefs are Agnostic. Agnostic is merely believing that there is a higher power, you just can't prove nor disprove what it is, therefore there is no "true" religion because you will never know which is the correct one.
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But the way you were raised has nothing to do with what you now believe and accept. IE... santa claus... I was raised (to a young age) that it was all real... later learned that it was not... shoot every single impersonator I see JK!!!!!!

I would say you cannot be both Christian and agnostic.

Same page you quoted:
1. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
2. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.
2. One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something.


To be a Christain you have to believe and know in your heart... if you do not... I would say ((remember I do not make the decisions... I am not the judge)) you are not.


Cool conversation.
 
well if they don't deny the exsitance of god they're agnostic, if they don't beileve at all (and make a point about it) they're athist, well what if they just don't care one way or the other?

ok back to the orginal topic, not that the theology isn't intersting

i think one of the meanest things i've heard...
me: mom thats murdoc, hes my baby and an awsome pet.
my step-dad: (having just walked by in the hall) thats not a pet it's a f***ing reptile.
like i was anormal because i had an intrest in something that wasn't "normal"
but he says stuff like that all the time so whatever.
 
Emanon said:
But the way you were raised has nothing to do with what you now believe and accept. IE... santa claus... I was raised (to a young age) that it was all real... later learned that it was not... shoot every single impersonator I see JK!!!!!!

I would say you cannot be both Christian and agnostic.

Same page you quoted:
1. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
2. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.
2. One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something.


To be a Christain you have to believe and know in your heart... if you do not... I would say ((remember I do not make the decisions... I am not the judge)) you are not.


Cool conversation.
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I think all 3 quotes basically say the same; agnosts do not choose a 'side' in the the discussion wether God excists or not. I think it is a quitecommon way of thinking around here; 'I do not know if God (or any other universal force)exists so I do not include a belief or disbelief in my life', I simply just ignore it.' That is what I do, same goes for any other spiritual or psychic phenomenon. I am interested in any new information on the subjects though, and keep my eyes open for proves for either way of thinking.
 
One of my colleagues has a horrified fascination with my snakes. She has to ask how they are doing, then goes into shudders and says how could I keep snakes, etc, etc. Then when we are on the same shift again, she has to go through the performance again :grin01: I have promised to put nice pics (no feeding) on a disc for her to see............possible conversion methinks
 
There are times when I enjoy making people jump or scurry away from me and my snake, but over all I am more interested in educating those who show even the slightest interest.

There is one waitress at the Diner we frequent that always asks about our critters even though she seems paranoid about the fact that we have snakes (and SO many! lol) and she always asks why we keep them. In the beginning she was terrifed that we would let one get out and it would somehow get into her house. (she lives nearby) I told her we don't let ours roam around the house much.

She's to the point where she wants to see them, but is scared of seeing them still. So we'll keep easing her fears until BAM... we've pulled her into the madness and end up giving her one of our new hatchlings. *weg*

The ones that annoy me though, are the pet store clerks that work in stores that sell reptiles and no abosolutely NOTHING about proper care for snakes and other cold blooded critters - even more so when they are anal retentive about picking up said creatures. I love wearing my sister's Mexican King around my wrist in the store just for them! I love watching them turn ten shades of green and white.

*sigh* But I don't do that often... maybe it's time for a trip to Petsmart...

Jenn
 
Go convert them to snakelovers, Jenn and Diamond!

People at work ass about my snakes now and then, it does fascinate them in a way. Whenever they hear something about snakes on the news or through any other media, they come and tell me about it, that is funny. There is 1 collegue that wants to come over to see them someday, I am sure he will like them.

Most people that visit my house regularly, always go and have a look in the vivs, even if they are too afraid to touch them or are not interested to get to know them. I think the fascination exists in most people, wether they like them or hate them.
 
I've had the "ooh, it'd make a nice belt" comments too. I generally respond with "yeah I know, but I'm waiting until it's a bit thicker first." That normally shuts them up, as they tend to be the type of people who just want to see you get angry or offended.

Not so much a snake-hater, but I have a very close friend who is very much into animal rights, and while at her house I've had her little brother say things like, "if you really loved snakes you wouldn't keep them in a tiny cage, it's cruel." It's her family's house though, and I want to respect their beliefs, so I just try to change the subject.

I've enjoyed the theological discussion too, I've always felt St Patrick was out of order when he sent all the snakes in Ireland to the sea.
 
Wintermute said:
I've enjoyed the theological discussion too, I've always felt St Patrick was out of order when he sent all the snakes in Ireland to the sea.
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Well, St. Patrick never REALLY sent them into the sea; the reason why there are no snakes in Ireland is more geological. There were origionally no snakes in Hawaii either. I was horrified when I read in the travel book: ''Kill these snakes on sight; they are not native and eat all the other creatures.'' Apparently people bought pets and ended up releasing them. (And obviously that wasn't really I quote, that's just the genereal jist of what the book said.)

It's too bad that they were introduced to Hawaii but you're never gonna get rid of 'em all anyway so don't kill the one that was just unlucky enough to cross your path.
 
*sighs* I hate the misconceptons about snakes that people refuse to stop believing. But then if you've been taught something from childhood I suppose it can be difficult to accept that it's wrong. :/

Case in point: (this happened to me) a child in infant school gets a fill-in-the-blanks type test. 'Hungry as a (horse)', bright as the (sun)', 'green as the (grass)', you get the idea. And a little picture of what she is supposed to fill in by each question. And of course one of the questions is 'Slimy as a --?' and a picture of a snake. The child, knowing a little about reptiles, scribbles this out and puts 'smooth as a snake' instead. And then gets shouted at by a teacher because 'of course snakes are slimy' :twoguns:

At breaktime, it rains and she has to stay in. The kids are given scrap paper for drawing, paper crafts etc. She makes paper snakes. She gets caught, her paper snakes are immediately ripped up by the teachers and she gets told off because 'snakes are bad'.

The child goes home and watches cartoons. The hero is an anthropomorphic mammal. The villain, a reptile.
Later she watches a film. It's set in space: the good aliens have cute pointy ears and are covered in fur. The bad aliens are scaly, with not-so-cute pointy teeth...

...You get the idea.
If people get taught that snakes are slimy and evil from early childhood, it's no wonder a lot of them refuse to see reason when they're shown otherwise.
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one time i was watching the jenny jones show and the show theme was "ppl with irrational fears" and there were all sorts of ppl who were afraid of things, like cotton balls n birds n frogs. ..well one girl was deathly afraid of snakes and she was talking about how one time, she and her friend were at a pet store and there happened to be a snake that was dead and her friend, knowing that the girl was terrified of snakes, grabbed the dead snake and chased the girl around the store with it, eventually throwing it at her. that s disrespectful to the girl AND the snake!! :sobstory:
 
Not just snakes - the food chain is repulsive

I had to make a trip to the local pet store to get some crickets and anoles to be fattened up a bit for my young milk that I haven't converted to pinkies yet. My corn is very happy with f/t fuzzies.

I had them in the little cardboard boxes in my office. Most of my office mates, first of all couldn't figure out what that chirping noise was. Then when they did the general response was "Can I see them ..... ah ah it moved" Those brave enough to peak in the anoles box took it to a higher pitched level. They actually screamed and some dropped the box. Now these are all adults at least 25 years old and each one was warned that they move when you peek in.

I understand fear of things that our parents and teachers taught us, but really. I have to give them credit, many of my coworkers then wanted to see pictures of the eating process and were not squeamish at all looking at the pictures.

Funny how people react. :rolleyes:
 
get'em while they're young...:)

That's why I'm bringing a snake into my classroom (thanks, Terri/CornCrazy & Connie/Hurley!), to combat that "meanness" at an earlier age. :) My principal is skittish, but hopefully I'll convert him, too...I doubt that any of my colleagues will say anything to my face about having a snake because I really do work my tail off at my school (and if they say anything behind my back, not to worry, gossip gets around like wildfire...I'll find out. :) ). Even my students from last year, in just talking about my wanting a snake, many of them developed a different perspective...at first, they would say, "Eeeewww! They're slimy!", but I'd tell them how I touched one and how they're very soft & smooth. And, of course, because my students bow down to me (of course they do! they're 7 & 8 years old!), they take my word as gold. :) My school has about 900 students in it, and naturally it will get out fast that I have a snake, so hopefully by June I'll have converted 900 kids...which is a start. :)

And...don't tell my sister (which I know you won't...), I'm thinking of getting the whole works & a corn snake for my niece's 3rd bday. My sister might flip, and my mother might faint, and (after the theological discussion!) my Oma who is a Jehovah's Witness may preach, but I know Ava will love it because she sees little lizards & snakes all of the time in Charlotte, NC. :) We'll see...:)
 
shed'n my skin said:
She's also told me '"that one would make a nice belt" .
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Sharon Osbourne (yes, THAT Sharon Osbourne) said my iguana, Harvey Headbanger, would make an 'awfully nice purse'
I told her he was going to double in size and she said 'He'd make an awfully nice handbag then'
Simon Cowell (yes, THAT Simon Cowell) who was holding Harvey at the time, said 'Sharon, stop it'

Anyone care to guess where I was at the time (clue: there was a guy named Louie Walsh with them at the time)
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I haven't had the belt comment, but I've had it'd make a nicer pair of boots than a pet...
 
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