yellowbellyhippy
PaganVeganHippie!
uneducated ominivores always amuse me.
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Dinah
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Also this is what the USDA says about vegetarian diets.
http://www.mypyramid.gov/tips_resources/vegetarian_diets_print.html
It goes into detail you are welcome to read, I have already been told that my long messages get boring so I will be brief and just quite the first sentence
"Vegetarian diets can meet all the recommendations for nutrients."
http://www.mypyramid.gov/tips_resources/vegetarian_diets_print.html
It goes into detail you are welcome to read, I have already been told that my long messages get boring so I will be brief and just quite the first sentence
"Vegetarian diets can meet all the recommendations for nutrients."
LBoz
Original Curmudgeon
You just can't stop yourself, can you?
Thanks for that, Dinah. Someone told you your posts were boring? How sad. I think you've posted some really interesting stuff. Quality posts.
And unfortunately, I have to spread more rep around before giving it to you again. I hate that! :laugh:
yellowbellyhippy
PaganVeganHippie!
:bowdown: not to mention human's digestive tracts resemble vegetarians. Wonder why meat starts to rot in our tracts? Why don't we have fangs and sharp nails? Why must we cook with fire? (to kill bacteria)
If we were ment to eat meat and you belive in god (I don't) but why does he say we are not to eat his animals?
Michael823
New member
I'm not getting the point of this thread???
yellowbellyhippy
PaganVeganHippie!
New International Version (©1984)
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Then God said, "Look! I have given you every seed-bearing plant throughout the earth and all the fruit trees for your food.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
God said, "I have given you every plant with seeds on the face of the earth and every tree that has fruit with seeds. This will be your food.
King James Bible
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
American King James Version
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
American Standard Version
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food:
Bible in Basic English
And God said, See, I have given you every plant producing seed, on the face of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit producing seed: they will be for your food:
Douay-Rheims Bible
And God said: Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed upon the earth, and all trees that have in themselves seed of their own kind, to be your meat:
Darby Bible Translation
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb producing seed that is on the whole earth, and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree producing seed: it shall be food for you;
English Revised Version
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat:
Webster's Bible Translation
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food.
World English Bible
God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree, which bears fruit yielding seed. It will be your food.
Young's Literal Translation
And God saith, 'Lo, I have given to you every herb sowing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree sowing seed, to you it is for food;
Geneva Study Bible
And God said, Behold, I have given you {x} every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
(x) God's great.
Wesley's Notes
1:29-30 We have here the third part of the sixth day's work, which was not any new creation, but a gracious provision of food for all flesh, Psa 136:25. - Here is,
1. Food provided for man, Ge 1:29. herbs and fruits must be his meat, including corn, and all the products of the earth. And before the earth was deluged, much more before it was cursed for man's sake, its fruits no doubt, were more pleasing to the taste, and more strengthening and nourishing to the body.
2. Food provided for the beasts, Ge 1:30. Doth God take care of oxen? Yes, certainly, he provides food convenient for them; and not for oxen only that were used in his sacrifices, and man's service, but even the young lions and the young ravens are the care of his providence, they ask and have their meat from God.
King James Translators' Notes
bearing...: Heb. seeding seed
yielding...: Heb. seeding seed
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
1:29,30 Herbs and fruits must be man's food, including corn, and all the products of the earth. Let God's people cast their care upon him, and not be troubled about what they shall eat, and what they shall drink. He that feeds his birds will not starve his babes.
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Then God said, "Look! I have given you every seed-bearing plant throughout the earth and all the fruit trees for your food.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
God said, "I have given you every plant with seeds on the face of the earth and every tree that has fruit with seeds. This will be your food.
King James Bible
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
American King James Version
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
American Standard Version
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food:
Bible in Basic English
And God said, See, I have given you every plant producing seed, on the face of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit producing seed: they will be for your food:
Douay-Rheims Bible
And God said: Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed upon the earth, and all trees that have in themselves seed of their own kind, to be your meat:
Darby Bible Translation
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb producing seed that is on the whole earth, and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree producing seed: it shall be food for you;
English Revised Version
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat:
Webster's Bible Translation
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food.
World English Bible
God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree, which bears fruit yielding seed. It will be your food.
Young's Literal Translation
And God saith, 'Lo, I have given to you every herb sowing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree sowing seed, to you it is for food;
Geneva Study Bible
And God said, Behold, I have given you {x} every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
(x) God's great.
Wesley's Notes
1:29-30 We have here the third part of the sixth day's work, which was not any new creation, but a gracious provision of food for all flesh, Psa 136:25. - Here is,
1. Food provided for man, Ge 1:29. herbs and fruits must be his meat, including corn, and all the products of the earth. And before the earth was deluged, much more before it was cursed for man's sake, its fruits no doubt, were more pleasing to the taste, and more strengthening and nourishing to the body.
2. Food provided for the beasts, Ge 1:30. Doth God take care of oxen? Yes, certainly, he provides food convenient for them; and not for oxen only that were used in his sacrifices, and man's service, but even the young lions and the young ravens are the care of his providence, they ask and have their meat from God.
King James Translators' Notes
bearing...: Heb. seeding seed
yielding...: Heb. seeding seed
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
1:29,30 Herbs and fruits must be man's food, including corn, and all the products of the earth. Let God's people cast their care upon him, and not be troubled about what they shall eat, and what they shall drink. He that feeds his birds will not starve his babes.
Dinah
New member
I'm sorry I should have been more accurate, just that the posts where so long they were getting skimmed rather than read fully, and the thing is that I was posting specific information so skimming is what I think was causing some confusion. And if my post create confusion rather than their intent which was to provide info then they where not helpful to the point i was trying to make
yellowbellyhippy
PaganVeganHippie!
Heck no!!! Im sterotyping.....most meat eater believe in "god"
Honestly, it is down to research. Veg heads have a longer life span, it's just true. I don't care who eats meat, you can still come over for steak. I won't judge you. You just have to realize my colon cancer rate is less.
Hypancistrus
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Finally, after 184839849 pages... a real reason why meat is more green than veggies.
yellowbellyhippy
PaganVeganHippie!
tyflier
[Insert Witty Commentary]
This I absolutely agree with 100%. I admitted earlier that my view was skewed, and accepted the evidence that you provided for this a loooooooong time ago. I even told you that. I told you that after the very first post you made from that textbook. That's part of the reason it amuses to hear that I don't accept any evidence. I DID accept your evidence.
But that is NOT but YBH is saying. She is saying and has said repeatedly that "so many doctors" recommend a vegan diet over an omnivorous diet and this is something I just don't believe. I mean, if it was really such a significant health benefit over a balanced omnivorous, you'd think I would have heard about before now.
And with your position, I am in full agreement.
yellowbellyhippy
PaganVeganHippie!
Hypancistrus
New member
Oh no you didn't just post a link to PETA........ :madeuce:
LBoz
Original Curmudgeon
Genesis 9:1-3 says: "Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all of the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, now I give you everything."
Romans, Chapter 14
Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
Furthermore, if Jesus was a real advocate for vegetarianism then he would not have fed the multitude with fish. He would have used some sort of vegetable. Clearly, if he wanted people to be vegetarian or vegan he would demonstrate this by example. He clearly didn’t. Sorry, but if you are looking for compassion in the Bible towards animals, or even towards people for that matter, you won’t find that much of it.
Leviticus 11
11:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them, 11:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth. 11:3 Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
I could literally go on and on, but I think this is enough to make the point that God or god is not against eating meat. Now if you look at the deadly sins, gluttony is certainly one of them, and that's evidenced by increasingly overweight americans. You might make a case for a non-twinkie diet risking more lives than vegans or omnivores alone. Regardless, the only thing that is irking me about you Tara is that you say you're being bullied throughout this thread, but the reality is you bring it on yourself with statements like "uneducated omnivores amuse me." That's directed squarely at Chris and you know it. Chris is far from being uneducated, and he's passionate about what he believes in, and he's not once attacked you, yet you have repeatedly done so. It's hard to respect your lifestyle when you're clearly telling us how ignorant and uneducated we are. Does that make sense?
Romans, Chapter 14
Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
Furthermore, if Jesus was a real advocate for vegetarianism then he would not have fed the multitude with fish. He would have used some sort of vegetable. Clearly, if he wanted people to be vegetarian or vegan he would demonstrate this by example. He clearly didn’t. Sorry, but if you are looking for compassion in the Bible towards animals, or even towards people for that matter, you won’t find that much of it.
Leviticus 11
11:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them, 11:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth. 11:3 Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
I could literally go on and on, but I think this is enough to make the point that God or god is not against eating meat. Now if you look at the deadly sins, gluttony is certainly one of them, and that's evidenced by increasingly overweight americans. You might make a case for a non-twinkie diet risking more lives than vegans or omnivores alone. Regardless, the only thing that is irking me about you Tara is that you say you're being bullied throughout this thread, but the reality is you bring it on yourself with statements like "uneducated omnivores amuse me." That's directed squarely at Chris and you know it. Chris is far from being uneducated, and he's passionate about what he believes in, and he's not once attacked you, yet you have repeatedly done so. It's hard to respect your lifestyle when you're clearly telling us how ignorant and uneducated we are. Does that make sense?
yellowbellyhippy
PaganVeganHippie!
LBoz
Original Curmudgeon
:roflmao: Well that settles it for me right there! :blowup:
Hypancistrus
New member
I seem to remember someone saying they weren't into converting people to their beliefs...
I may be delusional. I thought Lori's photo on her private page was Dean at first. Then I saw it was actually a gorilla. The two are very similar though.
When in doubt....
THIS panda likes shoots.
I may be delusional. I thought Lori's photo on her private page was Dean at first. Then I saw it was actually a gorilla. The two are very similar though.
When in doubt....
THIS panda likes shoots.
tyflier
[Insert Witty Commentary]
You're kidding me, right?
You offer little more than biased reports from doctors that tend to make or lose millions based on their "expert advice", and when it's passed as "proof", you resort to outright name calling(which I reported, by the way).
When it is stated finally and firmly by UNbiased agencies that BOTH diets are healthy if properly monitored and followed, you resport to bible translations, and support it with "most emat eaters believe in god".
And now PETA is your best friend, and I should listen to something that they have to say? Ignore everything that they have to say because they are evil and the bane of all pet owners, but they are to be trusted with vegetarian information?
You gotta be kidding. Nobody can be that insistant that their way is the only way. Tell me this is a joke, please...
If you go back and read, you'll notice that I acceopted Dinah's proof that vegan and vegetarian diet can be succesfully balanced without nutritional supplments. That was a long time ago.
See, when an open-minded adult is shown evidence that their opinion may not necessarily be accurate, they accept that, and move one. That's what I did. You are insisting, now, that vegan diets are the ONLY healthy choice. That's just ridiculous. And you can call me uneducated and ignorant all you want. It doesn't change the fact that your statement is just plain wrong...
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