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Tessera, now in color!!

abell82 said:
I know I sound like a broken record... but those aren't cornsnake head patterns.
Anery:
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And even the grey rat genetics from the Ultramel breeding doesn't explain that.:shrugs:
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Like mentioned before, based on your "head pattern doesn't look corn" theory, then I should get rid of all my bloodreds. Heck, they don't even have the corn lateral pattern, correct dorsal pattern or even coloration for that matter.

Calift said:
I haven't heard of any, but now that you mention it...they remind me of a ribbon snake.
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I know you do not think they are a ribbon hybrid, so I am joking here. SO, they do superficially resemble some garters, but since all the tesserras have been egg producers and no live births have been recorded by Graham, Don or KJ, I am going to say they aren't a ribbon or garter cross, lol. If some live babies come out, then these three will have some explaining to do huh?

As said over at The Source, great looking animals Don, can't wait to see what all is produced this and next year.

dc
 
Camby said:
Like mentioned before, based on your "head pattern doesn't look corn" theory, then I should get rid of all my bloodreds. Heck, they don't even have the corn lateral pattern, correct dorsal pattern or even coloration for that matter.
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Not to mention, if you haven't noticed, Tesserra is a pattern modifying trait so maybe I am just by myself, but I expect or accept the head pattern is modifed along with the rest of the pattern. I am not being a wise guy, just stating what I think is "normal" for a pattern modifying trait

dc
 
A10Airknight said:
Do I want to know market price?
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NO! Just save up everything for a year or 2, or sell everything you own, lol

I'll try getting an Anery Tessara in 3 years. That'll be time enough for quite a few ppl to have their projects going and have some babies I can afford. Unless someone just out of the blue offers me one for a smile :D

All so pretty!! Can't wait to see someone produce a HypoBlood Tess
 
They are so lovely! And I absolutely agree, there are too many other "all corn" colors and types that have altered head patterns to say just based on that fact they are not "true" corns. My blood did not have the "typical" head pattern. Just by reading the morph guide I can tell you that there are probably more head patterns than actual morphs. I kind of think of head patterns as their finger prints. No two are identical.
 
Caryl said:
Beautiful......

If only the family didn't persist in their stubborn habits of eating and requiring clothes, and other such superfluities perhaps I could snag myself a snow tessera!
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~LOL~ Too true! Dang that pesky rent payment every month. Do you think my landlord would mind if I didn't pay it one month so I could buy a Tessera? :)
 
whoty said:
You can't hate on how someone else feels about the "tessera corn snake"
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We can hate on people's opinion when they jump on the "omg it's different it must be a hybrid" bandwagon without true cause.

Are sunkisseds hybrids? They look pretty different from normal corns. How about motleys? Stripes? Diffused?
 
Shiari said:
We can hate on people's opinion when they jump on the "omg it's different it must be a hybrid" bandwagon without true cause.

Are sunkisseds hybrids? They look pretty different from normal corns. How about motleys? Stripes? Diffused?
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I really like THIS argument. With Sunkissed, even the HEAD shape is different. Not just the head PATTERN.

Having had the chance to see Tessera's up close and personal, I really see no reason for people to call them hybrids, other than jealousy that they didn't discover them.

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Shiari said:
We can hate on people's opinion when they jump on the "omg it's different it must be a hybrid" bandwagon without true cause.

Are sunkisseds hybrids? They look pretty different from normal corns. How about motleys? Stripes? Diffused?
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Well,hate on my friend. I'm not ready to jump on the "Tessera bandwagon" just yet. I,myself think that they are hybrids. Corn snakes been around for a while. And out of the blue,a unique pattern as this snake appears. It's just always been fishy to me. Who's to say that a lot of other so called "morphs" isn't hybrids. Show me the blood paperwork,then i'll change my verdict. Until then......................hybrid.


I have yet to see a lion come along the way with tiger stripes. A zebra came along the way and they called it a zebra,not a horse. :shrugs:
 
whoty said:
You can't hate on how someone else feels about the "tessera corn snake"
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Is that response based off of actual knowledge? Or just a knee jerk reaction.

How do you know that the corns you've got (or what anyone else has, for that matter) are 'pure bred'. Who's to say that they don't 'integrate' in the wild? It's a difficult thing thing to call 'hybrid' (or pure) without first hand knowledge of genealogy, I would think. As far as most breeders (or anyone doing research on Tessera) are aware of, the Tessera is not a hybrid. To say it is a blatant crossing with something else would be outright calling Graham, KJ and Don liars- not to mention, I would like to hear some ideas as to what it could be 'hybridized' with, since most anything I can think of that would even remotely resemble the patterning are live-bearers. I have a Tessera myself and I can say it looks 100% corn- all the way down to the head shape.
 
This is entirely my own opinion & you can all feel free to take it or leave it. All of the corns in captivity comes from WC caught ancestors & wild corns do sometimes breed with other snakes. So to me, no one will be able to say for 100% sure that their original WC animal didn't have a great, great, etc. grandparent who wasn't a corn. So as long as a person has done all that they can to be reasonably sure it isn't a hybrid, I personally don't care if it is or not. What constitutes a hybrid, anyway? 1% other blood? Less, more? Unless it's a very obvious hybrid or you have it's genes sequenced, you aren't going to know for sure, so why sweat it? Now I think this doesn't apply to someone who deliberately breeds a hybrid & is trying to sell it as pure.

In a few years, when hopefully I can afford one, will definitely be getting an anery tessera! They are beautiful!
 
whoty said:
I have yet to see a lion come along the way with tiger stripes. A zebra came along the way and they called it a zebra,not a horse. :shrugs:
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Just because you haven't seen it, who's to say it hasn't happened? A lion in the past, before documenting was possible, very easily could've had stripes. A genetic fluke. It happens all the time. When THIS genetic fluke happened, though, it was pure luck that someone was around to document it, and to begin to "harvest" it, in a way.

As for the Zebra and horse thing... totally different. Not only did they look different than horses in coloration, their body shapes were different, along with behavior. With Tesseras, the only notable difference is color. Body shapes is the same, and their behavior is still that of corns. They don't have live young, don't produce venom, and they don't grow to outrageous sizes. They're still corn snakes in every way but pattern.


The truth is, there might not be a "pure" corn out there. Every single animal that we know and love could be a "hybrid". All animals were wild once, and all of them could've had a grandparent 500 years ago that bred to the wrong species, and created "hybrids". Those F1 hybirds could've bred back to corns, and so on until they look like they do today... "pure" corn. It's a fact that some people seem to forget.
 
I forgot to add that I LOVE the snow. I can't wait until these are... moderately priced. Beautiful patterns :) I think I still like the normals best, though.
 
I like the snow, too. So the 'additional' morph I am wondering about the looks of is adding 'diffused' to the equation. Stripe down the middle, and uniform sidewalls???
 
vetusvates said:
I like the snow, too. So the 'additional' morph I am wondering about the looks of is adding 'diffused' to the equation. Stripe down the middle, and uniform sidewalls???
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That. Sounds. Awesome.



EDIT: Whoops. I didn't finish my thought. LOL! Anyways, I'm liking what I see here with these colorful Tesseras! :D
 
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