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Request: Some sort of way to keep threads on-topic

Isoldael

Isoldael

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I'm still relatively new to this site, but one thing I've noticed is that almost every single thread goes off-topic to the point where you have to actively search for any sort of reply that might still be relevant. Now, this isn't any problem if the original poster of the thread is okay with that - some threads are simply more fun when they go in directions no one anticipated or might lead to interesting new points of view.

It gets a lot more annoying, though, when the person who created the thread is trying to ask a question or spark a discussion on a certain subject, and it immediately turns to another subject (such as the eternal hybrid or cohabbing discussions).

That is why I would like to request some kind of regulation to keep threads on-topic when the OP wishes so. Of course, such a thing would have to be very leniently dealt with - it's the nature of many discussions to go off-topic at some point, and that is fine. Only excessively going off-topic after the OP makes a specific request to keep things on-topic, though, should be dealt with somehow, in my opinion.

I know stuff like this is not my call and that's why I'm merely posting a suggestion here. Would love to hear more opinions and if such a thing is even wanted by the general community or the moderators / admins here.

~Isoldael
 
I would simply make posts steering it back that way. Threads are allowed to become a conversation here, and conversations often drift.
 
What is and is not considered "on topic" would be subjective now, wouldn't it; making something like that a very hard thing to moderate. I'd rather it be open personally.

I know the thread you are referring to and I felt that the subject was VERY on topic being that the reason why the snake was so quickly subject to scale rot was due to a stressful environment. An apple to you may be an orange to me.
 
There are several other forums where users are muzzled, if you really prefer that sort of thing. Posts that disagree with the owners vanish, threads are deleted, members are constantly warned and reprimanded and infractions given. I'd venture to guess the general population here has gravitated away from that sort of atmosphere.
 
Tara, the thread there was certainly not the only reason that made me post this. I very much enjoy reading snake-related topics, but they become so incredibly difficult to follow when people start bringing up the same (unrelated or barely related) topics over and over again and discuss them until it all comes down to "this is what I think and you suck for thinking something else". Again, I'm not talking about this particular thread, but many threads I've seen on this forum.

As for being muzzled - that's the other extreme, of course. I've seen tons of forums where everything is moderated to everyone's delight - only when things get seriously off-topic and the original owner of the thread doesn't want it to. I'm not talking about the deletion of threads, I'm not talking about removing posts that disagree with the original poster (after all, having a different opinion is fine and contributes to the discussion), I'm talking about people staying at least somewhat on-topic of the original thread starter requires that of them. I would also gladly see some moderation on posts that are clearly disrespectful to another forum member, but that's an entirely different topic.

I understand and respect it if no one else would like even the slightest bit of moderation. That's fine, and that means that this forum is not for me and I'll steer clear of it (or at least anything other than the photo section). As much as I believe in freedom of speech, I also believe in being respectful to fellow human beings, whether it's in the form of your post tone or in the form of staying on topic when the original poster asks you to.
 
Sorry to point this out, but that sounds very hypocritical when you keep bringing back up the same arguments over and over youself in *other* threads ;)
 
Thanks for pointing that out, Tara, but as you may notice when reading my posts there, you will see that I already pointed out that replying there myself was hypocritical. I also sent a pm to the op to apologize for that personally.

As you can tell I know from experience how easy it is to get sucked into a discussion on a topic, off-topic or not. That's why I think a bit of moderation in such cases would be an enormous help :)
 
I love how this forum is open. I like that the owner doesn't like to "moderator" too much. The rules are well stated for the sight. I like the fact that mods can also give their personal feelings on a subject without being a "mod"

I personally would hate to be "moderatored" to death.
 
Isoldael said:
As you can tell I know from experience how easy it is to get sucked into a discussion on a topic, off-topic or not. That's why I think a bit of moderation in such cases would be an enormous help :)
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Isn't that what forums are for, discussion?
 
Threads drift here. It's the nice thing about an open forum. Some really awesome debates and discussions have been started because of wandering topics. Not all of them are sweet and wonderful debates, but they are still quality in their own way.

That's part of the attraction to this site for many users. Yes there are rules, but they are less militant and restrictive over how a conversation can progress. Many good threads have been born from what could be perceived as chaos.

It may not be a forum format that appeals to everyone, but I think it's a great fit for people that enjoy it.
 
Thanks for your opinions, everyone :) I'll stick to the more on-topic friendly toned forums for now then, but I'll still be around every now and then for some photo-browsing.
 
Isoldael said:
Thanks for your opinions, everyone :) I'll stick to the more on-topic friendly toned forums for now then, but I'll still be around every now and then for some photo-browsing.
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I guess when you lay down an ultimatum of "your way or the highway", sometimes you have to take the highway. :wavey:
 
Rich, I think your name should be bright red!! ;)

Isoldael, at least you didn't get a "fella" yet.
 
Rich Z said:
I guess when you lay down an ultimatum of "your way or the highway", sometimes you have to take the highway. :wavey:
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Was hardly an ultimatum, just a suggestion ^^ The fact that I won't be posting here anymore isn't supposed to be any sort of leverage towards forcing you into having my opinion, it's just the fact that the way the forum is now, I don't feel very comfortable here. That's clearly my own "problem" and has nothing to do with you guys ^^

Tara80 said:
Isoldael, at least you didn't get a "fella" yet.
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I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with that term ^^" Could you please explain? :)
 
Isoldael said:
Was hardly an ultimatum, just a suggestion ^^ The fact that I won't be posting here anymore isn't supposed to be any sort of leverage towards forcing you into having my opinion, it's just the fact that the way the forum is now, I don't feel very comfortable here. That's clearly my own "problem" and has nothing to do with you guys ^^
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I am sorry that apparently you are unfamiliar with the term "ultimatum". But, in fact, that's exactly what you have done here. Your ultimatum was that either this site needs to change to suit you, or you will no longer participate. That is a *classic* ultimatum, in every sense of the word.

Sorry it didn't work out well for you.
 
The term "off topic" has become too broad in this era of electronic chat. When you have to type everything (sometimes with character limits or fees, depending on the device), wanting to keep things short, sweet, and Q&A-like is to be expected. I think people have also gotten to be in hurry looking for info as a consequence of all the readily available information combined with short text messages.

I would be going off topic if I began explaining my views of how the internet is affecting communication, but I'll refrain. However, moving from the original topic to one related to another is conversational flow typical of face-to-face communicating. It may not end the way it began, but it was engaging and educational, in one way or another. You learn new things and get to know people too.

I prefer the casual atmosphere here, where people don't mind typing out a big, helpful reply. Do the topics stray? Yes, but it's why I keep checking the thread.

Just my opinion! :)
 
And anyone is free to say, at any time, so back to the original topic... Just don't expect people to feel they have to follow your suggestion! I have noticed that whenever an OP tries to "make rules" about what can and cannot be discussed in their thread, it doesn't go over very well.
 
Rich Z said:
I am sorry that apparently you are unfamiliar with the term "ultimatum". But, in fact, that's exactly what you have done here. Your ultimatum was that either this site needs to change to suit you, or you will no longer participate. That is a *classic* ultimatum, in every sense of the word.

Sorry it didn't work out well for you.
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Ultimatum (noun): A final demand or statement of terms, the rejection of which will result in retaliation or a breakdown in relations.

I am very well aware of the definition of an ultimatum. An ultimatum is not a mere suggestion like mine, though. Never did I say "YOU MUST CHANGE THIS OR I LEAVE!" I made a suggestion, it was rejected by the majority here, so I responded by saying it's not really for me then, so I'll limit myself to the photo section. That is, in no way, an ultimatum.

Kind regards,

Isoldael
 
Well, you did make a statement of terms (wanting heavier moderation) and when that was rejected, a breakdown in relations has occurred.

I hope you enjoy the other forums. This is by far my favorite one.
 
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