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Palmetto demand?

XenDrgn said:
Mystic, I love that your avatar/profile pic is your little oddball on the water bowl. Makes me giggle every time.

In my far away win the lottery kind of dreams, I think about being a proud owner of a palmetto. There are so many possibilities when it comes to breeding that it just boggles my mind.

(palmetto x anery = salt n pepper snakes?) Saddly, my husband would call me crazy and never let me get into something as intensive as breeding. So I will just have to live vicariously through the forums.
Unless I win the lottery.
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I missed this, sorry!
Thank you! It made me laugh when I saw it too. I had to snap a pic.

She thinks she's a little chondro :)
 
StacySchultz said:
And the Blizzard Palmetto is a complete waste of time. Wonder what they were thinking???
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I don't know that it was entirely intentional, just a known possible outcome. The original wild-caught male was bred to an amel het caramel. If the female hets were bred back to the male, half the palmettos produced would be het amel. If the siblings were paired together, the odds of being het amel jump to 66%. Likely one of the palmettos het amel was bred to a charcoal and those resulting siblings were paired, two normals het charcoal palmetto with (my math is probably wonky here) about 25-33% chance of each being het amel depending on the parents. Assuming those normals were the parents, each hatchling produced had just over 1.5% chance of being a blizzard palmetto.

Really the odds were pretty against it, even if my numbers are off. And they probably are, soooo... :sidestep:
 
I thought there was a way to identify Het Palmettos? Like there was a visual clue, just not the whole 'Palmetto' look that you get with a homozygous. Is this true?
 
Hets have been observed to be lighter in color, though it hasn't been proven whether this is because the gene is co-dominant or the result of some other gene infecting the line (such as the infamous yellow jacket). Not knowing what else Don paired with the original male, the latter could be possible.
 
I think most of us would gladly take a free one. ;) Much as I'd love to be able to afford one yesterday, I'm happy to see the price remain at $4k for a while yet. I would rather see invested breeders plugging them into new exciting projects for the next few years than folks just mass producing normal palmettos. Eventually the price will fall to some reasonable amount.
 
I imagine they'll be under $500 in a few years. There are only so many buyers at the ground level ($4k), so that will saturate pretty quickly and same thing with the next level below that. People just aren't into corns; especially as an "investment snake."

I think the palmettos are awesome looking snake, but beyond the base morph, I don't imagine there is much you can do with them. You can make amels, anerys, caramels, etc, but all that gets you are a few scales that are different colors. Nothing really striking IMO that is a notch above the base morph. So I think that will also hasten the price drops.
 
Blue Apple Herps said:
I think the palmettos are awesome looking snake, but beyond the base morph, I don't imagine there is much you can do with them. You can make amels, anerys, caramels, etc, but all that gets you are a few scales that are different colors. Nothing really striking IMO that is a notch above the base morph. So I think that will also hasten the price drops.
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I agree with this for the most part. The only thing I'm really interested in seeing combined with palmetto are pattern mutations like motley, stripe, and diffused. Mostly out of curiosity of how it will affect the freckled pattern.
 
DuxorW said:
I agree with this for the most part. The only thing I'm really interested in seeing combined with palmetto are pattern mutations like motley, stripe, and diffused. Mostly out of curiosity of how it will affect the freckled pattern.
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This. I'm more interested in what the pattern mutations will do than the color mutations. I think Motley and Tessera would be fun to see in the Palmetto.

I think the coloring is perfect as is.
 
DuxorW said:
I agree with this for the most part. The only thing I'm really interested in seeing combined with palmetto are pattern mutations like motley, stripe, and diffused. Mostly out of curiosity of how it will affect the freckled pattern.
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Yes, this is true. My guess would be not much, but you never know. I could imagine getting some cool arrangement patterns with the few scales that are colored.
 
Every time I order a lovely corn from Don at SMR, I hope he will throw one in my box. LOL. I still love opening the box but I always think that:) Don has such pretty snakes.
 
Palmetto's always remind me exactly of Brach's Jelly Nougat Candy. Every time I see one, I think of that candy.
 
Rich Z said:
I guess I must have missed that period of time. It used to be a tough sell at even a shade over $300 a head when I was selling new stuff.
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I remember buying at least two snakes that were over $400 in your annual half price sale! Plasma and an opal stripe.
 
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