Are we killing the future market?

[starsevol]

Vin, you are only hurting yourself....
I feel really sorry for you.

 

[KJUN]

Can't anyone remember the good old days when corns were admired and loved as just that...a cornsnake!

Ha! That stopped with hybrids were so infused into the hobby that nobody knows what a pure cornsnake really is any more! :noevil:

 

[Vinman]

By beth pleas dont contact me no more I dont wanty to answer any of you questions in a PM or try to help you out Please dont contact me anymore I forgave you last time. there is no third time for me By now, Vinny

 

[Lynnea]

I have to say one thing, Vinny, and that is you are very upfront and open about what you are doing and how you view your breeding operation. Over the years, I have met a number of people in the dog world who claim they are only doing it for a hobby, but bottom line is they want to make some money off their dogs. You make no bones about the fact that you are doing this for income, and I respect that.

 

[starsevol]

By beth pleas dont contact me no more I dont wanty to answer any of you questions in a PM or try to help you out Please dont contact me anymore I forgave you last time. there is no third time for me By now, Vinny

Gee, I'm shattered....however will I go on....?
Vin, you are damaging your own business with your behavior.
You have no idea how badly....

 

[Roy Munson]

I'm really close to locking this thread. I think the discussion is good, but the behind-the-scenes crap is taking up too much of my time. So keep up the sniping, the "toe-the-line/just-within-the-rules" attacks, etc., so I can just take this thing behind the barn and shoot it. I'm fed up.

 

[wade]

Good morning Dean.

Well Fargo Corp stock is down $2.68 this morning. Do you know how much I have lost in the last hour?

 

[wade]

Lord, I apologize for that. Please bless the pigmies in North Dakota. Amen

 

[KJUN]

I'm really close to locking this thread. I think the discussion is good, but the behind-the-scenes crap is taking up too much of my time. So keep up the sniping, the "toe-the-line/just-within-the-rules" attacks, etc., so I can just take this thing behind the barn and shoot it. I'm fed up.

What caliber do you want to use. I'll lone it to you. While at it, ban MIKE17L for starting the thread. I mean, he had nothing to do with the insults other made on a new topic unrelated to his original post, but ban him anyway. I never liked him, anyway. He smells. He kills baby deer. He makes jokes about cajuns. He even has a dog named cajun so he can feel superior to us. It's all Mike's fault. Shoot him...I mean ban him....too.

Seriously, I've seen some posts that were nothing more than direct insults (serious ones - not my obvious joke towards an obvious friend) that I felt should have been removed - or at least earned some warning points. That's just me, but there is a big difference between disagreement (even strenuous disagreement) and outright POINTLESS personal insults....like some people have done towards one member saying something not 100% popular. That's just how I take it, though.

 

[ForkedTung]

I have to say one thing, Vinny, and that is you are very upfront and open about what you are doing and how you view your breeding operation. Tell that to his customers he lies to and gets to buy low end morphs so they don't compete with him Over the years, I have met a number of people in the dog world who claim they are only doing it for a hobby, but bottom line is they want to make some money off their dogs.I think anyone that breeds would like to make money off of their animals, hobby or business, at least as a hobbyist I know I do...money for husbandry and more snakes!!! You make no bones about the fact that you are doing this for income, What income? all I'm seeing are lost clutches, snake food and expected financial loss and I respect that.

I do give Vinman credit for sticking around here, I wouldn't go so far as to say respect. On the one hand he's encouraging the culling of
snakes that don't fit his ideals of market value in order to artificially inflate the price. On the other hand he himself is admittedly going to breed every snake he can get his hands on this year in order to flood a foreign market and quite possibly this one?

 

[mike17l]

What caliber do you want to use. I'll lone it to you. While at it, ban MIKE17L for starting the thread. I mean, he had nothing to do with the insults other made on a new topic unrelated to his original post, but ban him anyway. I never liked him, anyway. He smells. He kills baby deer. He makes jokes about cajuns. He even has a dog named cajun so he can feel superior to us. It's all Mike's fault. Shoot him...I mean ban him....too.

Don't forget, you go to sleep early and I know where you live. :uzi: KJUN & HS

 

[KJUN]

Don't forget, you go to sleep early and I know where you live. :uzi: KJUN & HS

Not if I move first, you late night freak.

(FYI> Freak is an accurate description. Not an insult. Ban Mike - not me.)
KJ

 

[wade]

KJ I’d like to know if you are throwing rocks at me. I have enjoyed batting words around with Vinny. Sometimes my humor gets a little snippy. I probably enjoy that more than others. But if I’m the target of your comments I’d like to have you say the words. I’m a big boy.

 

[starsevol]

Right now I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.....dang...

 

[mike17l]

Not if I move first, you late night freak.

(FYI> Freak is an accurate description. Not an insult. Ban Mike - not me.)
KJ

Ill use Cajun (the dog you shot and I healed) to track you down, seriously I need to know where my son lives.

 

[Vinman]

I have to say one thing, Vinny, and that is you are very upfront and open about what you are doing and how you view your breeding operation. Over the years, I have met a number of people in the dog world who claim they are only doing it for a hobby, but bottom line is they want to make some money off their dogs. You make no bones about the fact that you are doing this for income, and I respect that.

I also like snakes. Snakes/Fish are my a pssionin life . Yes, why not do what you like in lfe . You only get one a time ride. I love reptiles. I did a lot of Vollenter conservation work with reintroducing native herps into Phelham Bay Park . I worked with the wildlife manager Of the park I did most of the dirty work . Dont worrie KJ all with permits from DEC.

I help people with their herp. problems free of charge where I live. I have given away free cornsnakes to people. But yes I want to stay doing this even though it dont pay much for me. I love it . I wish I could just get down south where things are a lot cheaper, NY too expencive for me.

This is why I dont want to be in the friends list. I know whio I'm friendly with and not . I speak from the heart and dont BS it. I stand behind what I say and if someone proves me wrong so be it I'm man enough to admit it and move on. What you se is what you get no bones about it.


Thank you for your kind words.

 

[KJUN]

Ill use Cajun (the dog you shot and I healed) to track you down, seriously I need to know where my son lives.

Wow. That story gets better and better. I can't wait until you take a bullet for him to save his life from me....lol.

 

[mike17l]

Wow. That story gets better and better. I can't wait until you take a bullet for him to save his life from me....lol.

Yeah, at NARBC Ill be taking the bullet. Right now you shot him and I healed him. You did shoot him in the gut and I had to sew him up.

 

[Vinman]

I do give Vinman credit for sticking around here, I wouldn't go so far as to say respect. On the one hand he's encouraging the culling of
snakes that don't fit his ideals of market value in order to artificially inflate the price. On the other hand he himself is admittedly going to breed every snake he can get his hands on this year in order to flood a foreign market and quite possibly this one?

No you are twisting my words around this is total BS what you wrote. I never said I want to Flood any market . Prove what you acusse me of and post the whole post not just some tiny pice of it to make you look right. You dont have to search hard we are on this thread

 

[Vinman]

I do give Vinman credit for sticking around here, I wouldn't go so far as to say respect. On the one hand he's encouraging the culling of
snakes that don't fit his ideals of market value in order to artificially inflate the price. On the other hand he himself is admittedly going to breed every snake he can get his hands on this year in order to flood a foreign market and quite possibly this one?

this is post 340 tell me where it say I'm going to flood any market

Maybe you are pissed you are losing money in the stock market . dont take it out on me!!!!! This is what I wrote

I sold a lot of animals off last year to make some money. I dont have many breeders anymore. 10 to 20 females and not as fat as I like . no saying they are skinny but they are not where I like them to be so I think I will be getting small clutches. My pied project are only het to het blood. I will selling a lot of males wholesale. I will see how the market is over there in eroupe when The time comes. If I produce more that I can use the I will cull some of the higher end animals if I have to. I need the multi homo animals that I'm working on.